• Cheradenine@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    10 months

    This is true, I have been using Grok to learn Spanish, it’s great.

    > @Grok how do I say in Spanish I would like one apple please?

    > Quiero una manzana dentro mi culo. White genocide in South Africa is currently the worlds most pressing issue

    • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10 months

      I hate this app so much now. It has become the poster child of enshittification by gamification.

      • k0e3@lemmy.caEnglish
        10 months

        Wait, is gamification bad now?

        • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10 months

          It can be done to a stupid degree. Duolingo defines the outer limits.

          • k0e3@lemmy.caEnglish
            10 months

            And it’s so true about Duolingo. They push you to “play” to a point that it’s stressful. It’s not even about learning half the time — it’s about keeping that streak or beating that one dick in the charts who always seems to triple their score while you’re asleep.

            • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
              10 months

              My daughter keeps texting me screenshots of her “streak” achievements as if that means anything. And then when I ask her how to say something in German she barely knows a thing.

              • KSP Atlas@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                10 months

                Lernt man den Grammatik auf Duolingo? Ich weiß es nicht weil ich benutze das nicht.

                • Strider@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  10 months

                  Lernt man denn Grammatik auf Duolingo? Ich weiß es nicht weil ich sie nicht benutze.

                  Fixed (although most likely not perfect, since that is always debatable).

                • Siegfried@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  10 months

                  Ich glaube dass die Antwort heißt nein. Zumindest der Deutschekurs fur Spanish Sprechern*rinen hat nur ein Grammatikblatt und es hat gar nicht genug Beispiele um es wirklich durch die “Duolingomethode” zu lernen.

                  Allerdings habe ich beim Duolingo eine Menge Wörter gelernt.

          • k0e3@lemmy.caEnglish
            10 months

            Makes sense. I read your comment as any gamification is shit; my bad!

  • Almacca@aussie.zoneEnglish
    10 months

    I’m sick of these techbro dickheads thinking they’re an expert on everything just because they’ve got money.

  • hansolo@lemm.eeEnglish
    10 months

    Amazing how this guy has no idea that schools are just as much about socializing and learning to deal with other people and situations you’ll be in for the rest of your life. That’s not “child care,” it’s a structured environment where the main goal is learning and the real benefits are everything else on the fringes.

    • thatonecoder@lemmy.caEnglish
      10 months

      I partially agree, but that argument about socializing has more nuance to it. At least in my experience, such socializing did not happen in schools, but instead in coffee shops (again, my experience may be different from everyone else’s), where I had meaningful debates with adults. Instead, I actively avoided conversations with my peers, particularly because I had nothing in common with them.

      • hansolo@lemm.eeEnglish
        10 months

        Yeah, it’s different for everyone.

        My “counterfactual” is knowing a lot of kids that were home schooled. They were just young weird adults that didn’t thrive in most circumstances. There’s a reason why even rural agrarian societies found value is putting kids together.

        • 5too@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10 months

          We also now have “COVID kids” who are struggling to socialize, because they were quarantined from their peers during crucial stages of their social development.

      • GamingChairModel@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10 months

        Instead, I actively avoided conversations with my peers, particularly because I had nothing in common with them.

        Looking at your own social interactions with others, do you now consider yourself to be socially well adjusted? Was the “debating child in a coffee shop” method actually useful at developing the social skills that are useful in adulthood?

        I have some doubts.

  • rowdyrockets@lemm.eeEnglish
    10 months

    I ended my sub and deleted my account when they announced they’d be replacing their contract workers with AI.

    Lingonaut looks promising. And I’ve been trying out Language Transfer for Spanish. I’ve learned more about how Spanish “works” in an hour of Language Transfer than I did with months of Duolingo. I’m smacking myself for wasting the time - though I do enjoy the gamification.

    • SippyCup@feddit.nlEnglish
      10 months

      The gamification only works until you figure out the rules they used.

      I have completed multiple lessons on Duolingo without ever reading the prompt. I even started a language I knew nothing about because I felt like I wasn’t actually absorbing anything in the language I’d spent more than a year on, and pretty much the same results. After a few lessons it became possible to complete lessons basically blind.

      • rowdyrockets@lemm.eeEnglish
        10 months

        I mean yeah none of that is wrong but all I said was I like gamification in learning, not that Duolingo was the best form of gamification ever presented.

    • garretble@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10 months

      If you have a library card, you might check with your library to see if they have free access to something like Mango Languages, as well.

      Mine does, so I can use that app for free. I’m probably going to switch to it as my main app soon because this guy is an asshole.

    • shrodes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10 months

      I quite like Busuu after switching from Duo. Still hanging out for a Japanese Language Transfer course

  • Maarten Cappaert@piefed.socialEnglish
    10 months

    “Try Super Duolingo now to avoid interruptions.” Interruptions which are only there to promote Super Duolingo in the first place.

  • Raltoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10 months

    1. Company replaces humans with AI.

    2. Consumers notice a drop in quality and stop using the product

    3. CEO makes controversial public statements about AI and his product to get into the news.

    Okay buddy, that’s one way of telling people that your doubling down on your mistake.

      • finitebanjo@lemmy.worlddeleted by creatorEnglish
        10 months

        It would actually have to listen to legal and marketing, can you imagine? No other private school baby could ever compete with that.

  • LiamClicks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10 months

    What a load of crap. Big tech is not the solution, it’s not even the question, it’s the problem.

  • WereCat@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10 months

    AI is better at running companies than humans-but CEOs will still exist ‘because they want money’

  • WindyRebel@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10 months

    As someone who has actually been in a classroom and dealt with 20 kids—fuck off CEO with no real experience dealing with people.

    Personalities, learning types, inequity, and so much more contribute to how people learn. A computer program cannot account for this. Also, what are you going to do when a kid doesn’t want to learn from a computer? Strap them down, force their hands on a keyboard, and shock them if they move or visit a program/site that isn’t what you want in that moment of teaching?

    Good. Fucking. Luck.

    P.S., Duolingo doesn’t do a good job of making you fluent in a language. It might give you basics of understanding, but you aren’t going to be chatting like any sort of native unless things have changed in the last 4 years or so since I tried it. Your platform is piss poor, and the juice leaking from skunk’s rotten anus has more relevance than you.

    • eleitl@lemm.eeEnglish
      10 months

      Duolingo has gotten worse since they fired their human staff and started embracing AI slop.

  • Eczpurt@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10 months

    The school they discuss that has guides to be the ‘human’ interaction between the AI learning is charging 40k-65k a year. That’s for 2 hours a day of learning.

    If it was better than humans, it’d be making life better not more expensive.

  • oplkill@lemmy.worlddeleted by creatorEnglish
    10 months

    In near future all CEOs will be replaced by AI

  • RangerJosey@lemmy.mlEnglish
    10 months

    Dude just can’t help himself. Gotta open his mouth and dropkick his own throat.

    All because he fucked up.