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Showerthoughts@lemmy.worldbyCevilia (they/she/…)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
7 months

PHP is the English of programming languages

English

It’s a terrible disorganised mess, it’s inconsistent, it makes very little objective sense, but for some reason we seem to have settled on it as the default for webdev

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    • Mark with a Z@suppo.fi
      7 months

      Just wait 'til you learn about JavaScript!

      • Leraje@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        7 months

        It’s also easy to learn and ready-to-go on just about every shared hosting package on offer.

          • cloudless@piefed.socialEnglish
            7 months

            English is easy to learn?

              • remon@ani.social
                7 months

                Yes.

                  • cloudless@piefed.socialEnglish
                    7 months

                    I have been learning English for decades and I still suck at it.

                    It is as the OP says “a terrible disorganised mess, it’s inconsistent, it makes very little objective sense”

                      • remon@ani.social
                        7 months

                        I have been learning English for decades and I still suck at it.

                        Not everyone has a knack for learning languages and it may vary depending on your native or other second languages you already know. But 1.5 billion people (the minority of them native speaker) manage it.

                        It is as the OP says “a terrible disorganised mess, it’s inconsistent, it makes very little objective sense”

                        It does. But it don’t think it’s true for English or PHP.

                          • cloudless@piefed.socialEnglish
                            7 months

                            Did you find English easy to learn? What is your native language?

                              • cepelinas@sopuli.xyz
                                7 months

                                Easy. Lithuanian.

                                • remon@ani.social
                                  7 months

                                  Yes. German.

                                    • cloudless@piefed.socialEnglish
                                      7 months

                                      English and German are both Germanic languages, they have a lot of similarities making it easier for you to learn.

                                      My native language is very different, I guess that makes it much harder for me to learn English. And the terrible disorganised mess doesn’t help.

                        • 0x01@lemmy.ml
                          7 months

                          I see how you could draw that conclusion, but it’s definitely far from the default

                          https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/pull_requests/2024/1

                          Number 7 by github project stats

                          https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology#most-popular-technologies

                          12 by stack overflow’s survey

                            • ryannathans@aussie.zone
                              7 months

                              Maybe 15 years ago for web hahaha

                            • sadfitzy@ttrpg.network
                              7 months

                              It’s not the default, C is.

                              There hasn’t been a reason to use PHP for over a decade.

                                • Cevilia (they/she/…)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                  7 months

                                  I meant for webdev.

                                • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                  7 months

                                  its only inconsistant and makes little sense if you stopped paying attention to it at before php 8

                                    • Cevilia (they/she/…)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                      7 months

                                      I only started paying attention to it at 8.3.6 :P

                                    • Codpiece@feddit.uk
                                      7 months

                                      I think you mean it’s the US English.

                                        • Cevilia (they/she/…)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                          7 months

                                          English English, the English I speak, isn’t much better.

                                            • Codpiece@feddit.uk
                                              7 months

                                              Sorry, when you said English and default I just assumed you were full colonial, and thought you meant simplified English, not British.

                                                • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                  7 months

                                                  Briton can’t even decide on whether to pronounce all the R’s or not.

                                                    • Codpiece@feddit.uk
                                                      7 months

                                                      Such as? We can pronounce “mirror” perfectly well.

                                                        • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                          7 months

                                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhoticity_in_English

                                                            • Codpiece@feddit.uk
                                                              7 months

                                                              Does herb start with an e?

                                                                • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                                  7 months

                                                                  What of it?

                                                                  All I’m saying is that British English is just as much as a mess as everywhere else. In fact, a lot of the mess is concentrated on those little islands.

                                                    • FiskFisk33@startrek.website
                                                      7 months

                                                      you are perfectly describing js

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