• ShyFae@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    3 months

    Tomato pie is already a thing.

    And it is indeed suspiciously similar to deep dish pizza.

    • _skj@lemmy.world
      3 months

      But people get mad if I say their tomato pie is just a type of pizza

        • Kcap@lemmy.world
          3 months

          It is really good. I make it from scratch sometimes,basivally foccacia with a thick and flavorful tomato goop on top. It’s super rich with a lot of olive oil in the recipe, but for me it’s the garlic, red pepper, and sugar that make the dish what it is. No cheese required here.

  • Norin@lemmy.world
    3 months

    Well, yeah, people have been calling pizzas pies for a long time.

    Deep dish especially.

  • gedaliyah@lemmy.world
    3 months

    Weird thought - pizza dates to 997 CE, that’s over 500 years before tomatoes were introduced in Italy. Most of the existence of pizza has been without tomato.

    • Asidonhopo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3 months

      Technically even 2500BC in ancient Sumer they had flatbreads and the ability to bake them with toppings, I think potentially you’re underestimating the age of the pizza by an order of magnitude.

      • gedaliyah@lemmy.world
        3 months

        True, I’m just looking at it linguistically. We’ve had a thing called “pizza” in continuous use since 997 according to Wikipedia (I was unable to locate the source cited, but I don’t think it’s a contentious issue, so Wikipedia is probably correct).

        • Asidonhopo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3 months

          Oh that makes more sense, yeah. However, I’m not sure theres 100% an unbroken line but Ancient Greeks had the word pitta, meaning flatbread and *bheid- is the Proto-Indo-European root meaning to split or to bite that it comes from. So it seems potential time travelers asking for pizza by name stand a decent chance of getting the point across right back into the neolithic.

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
    3 months

    That’s not an edgy take. Pizzas have been traditionally referred to as pies for a long time. It’s fallen out of favor in the last few generations, but there was a time when it was common to refer to it as a pie.

  • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3 months

    Depends on how much sauce is used. I’ve had plenty where it’s little more than a thin veneer.

    • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
      3 months

      Chicago deep dish style

      I don’t refer to pizzas as “pies” and generally frown upon it, but a case can be made for deep dish.

      • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.todayEnglish
        3 months

        I used to think I hated deep dish pizza cause I only ever had it at UNO’s and it was not great. But a local place by me was recommended because of their deep dish pizza. And it was amazing! One of two places in my city that make pizza you eat with a fork and knife. The other one is defacto “deep dish” but more classic pizza, just with like ALL the toppings.

  • njm1314@lemmy.world
    3 months

    Someone’s had Chicago style deep dish for the first time I see.

  • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3 months

    Where I live, we have a food that’s basically flatbread with toppings. One of the popular toppings is apple slices and raisins, which looks just like an apple pie. And we do like to joke that pizza is simply the tomato variant of it, too. 🙃