• MolochHorridus@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2 months

        So am I looked differently because I happened to join .ml instead some other instance? I was at first at different one, but lost my login and hadn’t used an email when signing up so I had to create another one. I just chose one instance randomly and it happened to be ml. I’m I fucked?

        • hexagonwin@lemmy.todayEnglish
          2 months

          not really, but .ml kinda has a bad recognition due to numerous issues with some people on it

        • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
          2 months

          Sort of a guilt by association thing. The .ml instance is also defederated from some other instances because of this. I wouldn’t say you’re fucked but it was enough to get me to first switch instances and then switch platforms to Mbin entirely because I found out the main devs for Lemmy are also admins for the .ml.

          I think most people would probably be understanding but some people will definitely make assumptions due to the instance names. I would be more worried about the admins messing with my posts or banning me because they didn’t like something I said. Hexbear is another would I would recommend avoiding, not sure if their domain got banned or what but they were very unpopular amongst most of the instances because of extremist shit.

          Edit: lol, tankies mad! Donwvote away but the instance earned its rep and clicking the down arrow on my post makes no difference, especially when they’re going to keep censoring posts they don’t like.

          • MolochHorridus@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2 months

            So now I need to find out how to switch instances and what I’ll loose by doing so.

            Great. Just what I wanted after leaving big tech social media.

            • moonshadow@slrpnk.netEnglish
              2 months

              You’re fine man. Think someone assuming you’re old because you use yahoo for email, not getting jumped for wearing the wrong gang colours

              It’s also really easy to make a new account if somewhere seems cool enough that you want to

            • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
              2 months

              You just sign up on another, it’s not too bad, but it’s not like you HAVE to move either.

              • GilloutineBreast@lemmy.mlEnglish
                2 months

                Wouldn’t defederation be an issue, making most content inaccessible if I stay on this account? Sorry, I’m not entirely familiar with these things

            • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
              2 months

              You can export all of your subscriptions, saved posts/comments and blocked user/comms by clicking the export button in your profile, which will give you a file you can import to any new account on a different Lemmy or piefed instance.

              • MolochHorridus@lemmy.mlEnglish
                2 months

                Thanks for the useful information. If .ml is viewed problematic and it is by developers of Lemmy, would it be better to switch to Piefed (which I’ve never even heard of) entirely?

            • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              2 months

              Everything’s got problems. Ours are just smaller and more fiddly.

              It’s not that hard to pick a new instance. .ml has pretty limited reach, other servers have much wider federation, maybe contains-the-whole-circle wider.

            • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              2 months

              Lots of random unaffiliated people end up on .ml and it’s not as serious as you’re worrying.

              If you want to switch, “switching” is mostly a matter of creating an account on that one and just using that, as far as I understand it.

              But I’m pretty sure Lemmy has an account settings feature that lets you export and re-import things like community subscriptions, etc.

              Try not to get frustrated, it only feels this way at first. Congrats on leaving the corporate hellscape.

              • MolochHorridus@lemmy.mlEnglish
                2 months

                I have plenty of posts saved for later reading, just like I had in Reddit. Just recently I managed to open all of those, gather links and delete my account. It feels really frustrating possibly having to do that again and knowing I might have to do it yet again in the future if my next chosen instance turns into a something scummy. Really puts a rather sour note on the whole federated thing.

                • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  2 months

                  I understand the fatigue but would encourage you to see federation differently. Thanks to federation, if that happens, you can pick up and move (again using the export tool…) and still use basically the same familiar service, interact with many of the same communities and user bases, etc.

                  Change and enshittification are inevitable. Without federation you get poor tools for exporting and end up having to cast off in search of new platforms entirely.

                  If you stick around, you won’t be hopping instances as often as you might think. And having the freedom to do so without completely turning your back on a whole platform and its communities user bases, etc. - it’s just super valuable.

          • GilloutineBreast@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2 months

            I couldn’t give two shits about political mumbo jumbo, but I do care about defederation.

            Made my account during the reddit exodus some years ago. Could you explain how bad the situation is? Like which major instaces am I defederatd from (again, don’t really care about any particular instances, just the accessibility of any major subreddit equivalents that are hosted there - dunno what they’re called in lemmy)

            While you’re at it could you also recommend a good instance to migrate to? Ideally a populated one that doesn’t get involved in this left right communist capitalist bullshittery too much.

            • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
              2 months

              I know that Lemmy.cafe is defederated from your instance, which hosts an active mealtime videos and documentaries community, if that interests you.

              A good neutral instance would be sopuli.xyz if you want to stick with Lemmy, or piefed.ca if you’d like to give the piefed interface a try.

              Piefed has some neat features unique to it, such as:

              • a very nice gallery view for image heavy communities.
              • the ability to combine comments from multiple communities/instances under one post, if the same link was posted to all of them. You can see an example of that here (notice how the comments have dividers for each community).
              • the ability to create and subscribe to a pre-made list of communities, sorta like a multi-reddit.
              • GilloutineBreast@lemmy.mlEnglish
                2 months

                Thanks for the breakdown.

                If you don’t mind me asking, why is it that some posts on mealtimevideos are still visible to me? The newest one I can see while viewing from here is from 9 days ago. I’m assuming this is a quirk of how defederation works, but not sure how exactly.

                • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
                  2 months

                  I believe that the defederation is only one way (from .cafe’s side), so while your instance will no longer request new content from .cafe, if a user from your instance manually inputs a direct link to a post from .cafe, I think it can still be fetched one at a time (might be somewhat wrong about that, but I’m pretty sure that’s the gist of it).

                  However, any posts or comments left to that community would only be seen by other users on your own instance, it would not federate out.

            • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
              2 months

              Not sure off hand, but there’s gotta be a chart of what federates with what somewhere. If I can find one I’ll try to post it.

        • Randomgal@lemmy.caEnglish
          2 months

          Yes. There is just as much prejudice and drama here as on Reddit. Just just different flavored

        • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
          2 months

          It’s a tankie instance that censors and bans people who don’t align with their politics (which are pretty extreme, Stalin is looked upon kindly and his body count A-OK as far as they’re concerned, criticism and free speech are very much not though).

          • jdr@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2 months

            Ya, fuck free speech I love mass killing

            • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
              2 months

              There was no Holodomor comrade, it was like, you know, they just made it up or something idk

          • weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            2 months

            I used to have an account there and this wasn’t my experience, and I used to be a capitalist back then. I mainly quit because there was nothing to do there, this was before lemmy gained an actual userbase following the reddit api situation when the most popular post on the whole network had one hundred upvotes and eight comments or something.

            You’ll be fine if you don’t involve yourself with the political communities, I don’t see why you would considering there still doesn’t seem to be much activity there.

        • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
          2 months

          Might be worth considering going to Mbin or Piefed instead? I’ve been enjoying kbin.earth a lot more than my old Lemmy instance. Piefed looks pretty good too but I haven’t really tried it yet.

            • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
              2 months

              FYI, piefed fully federates with Lemmy instances, so it’s pretty much an alternative Lemmy with some extra features.

                • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
                  2 months

                  There’s multiple piefed instances, but I don’t see why any of the general instances would oppose you creating a community that has archive.org links, it’s not like its a pirate site or anything.

                  You could also continue to post to the archive community on .ml from a piefed instance.

          • Auster@thebrainbin.org
            2 months

            I’d add to the suggestions Friendica too. Unfamiliar with Piefed (maybe I’ll create an account on the flagship instance to try out), but the other two also allow following microblogging stuff (e.g. Mastodon), as well as having microblogging functions to thread posts (e.g. boosting and tags).