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TIL: Ring Cameras Join Flock and Amazon to Now Create Direct Data Access for ICE

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    Ring Cameras Join Flock and Amazon to Now Create Direct Data Access for ICE
    open.substack.com
    Doorbell and license-plate footage can now be accessed through ICE-linked systems
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    • mrnobody@reddthat.comEnglish
      7 days

      Ring is already a part of Amazon

        • ouTPhaze@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6 days

          Ring is no longer a part of Amazon as of 2023

            • mrnobody@reddthat.comEnglish
              6 days

              No kidding?? So they were independent, then bought by Amazon, then sold??

            • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
              6 days

              Yeah kinda goofy of them

                • ouTPhaze@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  6 days

                  Nah, Ring hasn’t been part of Amazon for almost 3 years. Amazon has their own brand now, called Blink or something.

                    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                      3 days

                      So random comment to come back to, but this was just wrong apparently and i just believed it. Very much still owned by Amazon.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_(company)

                • RuBisCO@slrpnk.netEnglish
                  7 days

                  https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/07/substacks-nazi-problem-wont-go-away-after-push-notification-apology/

                  https://www.the-reframe.com/questions-for-substack/

                  https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/11/substack-extremism-nazi-white-supremacy-newsletters/676156/

                  https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/09/substack-nazi-content-policies-controversy/

                  https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse

                    • zikzak025@lemmy.worldEnglish
                      6 days

                      OP’s account exists only to post articles from this one source, I don’t think they’re a real person.

                    • ramenshaman@lemmy.worldEnglish
                      7 days

                      IIRC Amazon bought Ring quite some time ago. Run partnered with Flock a while back and then cancelled their contract recently? Correct me if I’m wrong.

                        • plz1@lemmy.worldEnglish
                          7 days

                          “Cancelled” is corpo speak for “it’s too controversial right ow, we’ll try again later”.

                            • ouTPhaze@lemmy.worldEnglish
                              6 days

                              Cost and Time to implement is the other reason it was cancelled (on top of Controversy), so it’s not something they’ll “likely try later”.

                                • plz1@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                  6 days

                                  I don’t even remotely believe that. Cost is nothing since it would likely be funded by tax dollars, and the implementation is already mostly done.

                                    • ouTPhaze@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                      6 days

                                      I’m not one for conspiracy theories, so have fun with that.

                                • ouTPhaze@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                  6 days

                                  Ring left Amazon back in 2023. And the Flock partnership was in October, and they canceled it last month due to backlash, time and cost.

                                • w3dd1e@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                  5 days

                                  But also, this substack has outdated info or neglects to mention that backlash to this did make a difference

                                  https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/12/amazons-ring-cancels-flock-partnership-amid-super-bowl-ad-backlash.html

                                  • MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                    7 days

                                    Additionally, from the article:

                                    In 2023, Amazon paid $5.8 million to settle Federal Trade Commission charges that Ring employees and contractors had broad, unrestricted access to private customer videos due to inadequate safeguards, as documented in FTC settlement reporting.

                                    Security researchers have identified vulnerabilities in Flock hardware.

                                    More than 60 Flock surveillance cameras were previously found exposed on the open internet, allowing access to live feeds and archived footage, according to San News investigations.

                                    • w3dd1e@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                      5 days

                                      YOU DONT OWN YOUR DATA. YOU DONT OWN YOUR VIDEO RECORDINGS.

                                      Ring owns your videos and they can do whatever we want with it.

                                      I will keep yelling this from rooftops until Ring owners understand.

                                      • AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                        7 days

                                        Do high-powered lasers ruin the sensors on these?

                                        Asking for a friend.

                                          • wuffah@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                            7 days

                                            Yes, and they can also instantly blind at long ranges faster than the human eye can close, so don’t go firing them at people’s houses.

                                            • ouTPhaze@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                              6 days

                                              No need, they cancelled the partnership last month, this is old news, do some research before immediately trusting a post.

                                            • ouTPhaze@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                              6 days

                                              Old news, they cancelled the partnership last month. https://blog.ring.com/about-ring/ring-and-flock-cancel-partnership/

                                                • billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                  5 days

                                                  Too late. No backsies.

                                                  • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                    6 days

                                                    Do we really believe that? I’m going to need more than “we pinky promise not to”

                                                      • ouTPhaze@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                        5 days

                                                        If they just cancelled it because of the controversy, I wouldn’t believe it. But they mention the time and expense of implementing it was prohibitive, so they probably won’t change their mind on the cancellation. They are a business, after all.

                                                      • GreenKnight23@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                        5 days

                                                        *delayed

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