16 days
Is this some american thing? I’ve never heard of anyone having a different name for a language class, that just seems odd to me. Your name is your name, doesn’t matter what language you’re speaking.
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It’s based on lemmy-ui which is AGPL-licensed, so I’d think it would have to be released somewhere?
purely legal conformation standpoint
It’s still stupid even if it’s required by law.
- 28 days
“Abuse” was maybe the wrong word, but my point is just that maybe liking and disliking shouldn’t be the same as voting up and down.
- 28 days
There are some platforms that offer emoji reactions. That at least gives a bit more nuanced of a reaction than just “up” or “down” - but it is not clear how you would use emoji reactions to sort posts. The good thing about upvotes and downvotes is that it’s a very easy signal for which posts should be at the top, and which should be sorted below.
- 29 days
That’s fine but does that action always correspond to wanting to upvote or downvote the post? I guess maybe? Lemmy at least assumes so.
- 29 days
When are you meant to use them then?
- 29 days
Boost (if its the same as on Mastodon) is indeed entirely different. It’s an “Announce” activity, which is akin to sharing or “reblogging” the post. This is not treated as an upvote in lemmy as far as I know.
There was recently some discussion on Feddit.dk surrounding the usage of upvotes and downvotes.
Currently in ActivityPub (the underlying protocol powering the fediverse), Lemmy sends “Like” and “Dislike” activities for upvotes and downvotes. Other threadiverse platforms (PieFed, Mbin and maybe even other non-threadiverse platforms?) do the same.
However, the “Like” and “Dislike” activities are meant for… well, “liking” and “disliking” things. They are not necessarily associated with the action of “vote this thing up so more people see it” or “vote this thing down so less people see it”.
For instance, on Friendica, you can dislike a post and this sends a Dislike activity. From Friendica’s point of view, such a Dislike indicates just that - the user dislikes the content. It doesn’t necessarily mean “this should be shown to less users”, but Lemmy will interpret the Dislike activity like that.
This leads to strange scenarios with posts that a user finds relevant and interesting (something that the user may reasonably want to upvote) but also something that the user dislikes (i.e. downvote).
As an example, imagine a post with a title like “AI is awful” (I’m sure many here has seen posts like that). A Friendica user could reasonably agree with the post and thus “Dislike” it. As in, they also find AI awful and they dislike AI, so they dislike the post, to show their disapproval of AI. The Friendica user’s intent is not to hide the post from other users or make the post be shown to fewer users! They just intend to show their dislike for the topic at hand.
However Lemmy will interpret that Dislike as a downvote, and the post will thus be shown to fewer users and get ranked down in the sorting.
So is Lemmy and co. abusing the Like/Dislike activities? Should the threadiverse instead use a dedicated activity for the acts of “I think this should be shown to more users” and “I think this should be shown to fewer users”? That way, it would not be confused with the Likes and Dislikes from other platforms.
- 1 month
No. “Hello, world!” or you’re doing it wrong.
- 1 month
What is a KVM? I’m not familiar with the term. I just meant that you aren’t able to SSH into the machine or something? But I guess if it’s turned off and physically unavailable, that’s hard.
- 1 month
Do you not have a way of remotely bringing the server back up?
Is there an issue about this in the GitHub tracker? It could be an unintentional consequence.
Lemmy, which is pretty known for its opinionated devs
The opinions of the devs have so far (at least as far as I know) not spread into the actual code though.
I feel like you’re moving from moderation to sort of oppressive or authoritarian territory once you’re literally building a social credit system into your software. If you want that, sure use PieFed. I don’t want that, so I won’t.
No just the whole thing. It seems sort of extreme to do all this stuff in the code. This is not something the software should have inbuilt if you ask me.
I mean okay sure, you can disable these things. But the fact that they are enabled out of the box in the software as written is a huge red flag.
This is so fucked. It’s literally legal for an AI to read pirated books to learn, but humans are not allowed to do this. AIs have more rights than we do already.