In a Thursday speech, U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) chairman Paul S. Atkins announced “Project Crypto,” an initiative to modernize the country’s securities rules and regulations to move financial markets on-chain.
“Under my leadership, the SEC will not stand idly by and watch innovations develop overseas while our capital markets remain stagnant,” he said at an America First Policy Institute event in Washington D.C. His plan includes measures to reshore crypto businesses that have left the country and to ensure that “archaic rules and regulations do not smother innovation and entrepreneurship in America.”
So to match the fraudulent government, the USA is going to have an entirely fraudulent market and soon after an entirely fraudulent currency.
I would argue that the market has been fraudulent for some time now, but otherwise yes
Got even worse after the Terra blockchain collapsed. Pretty much popped the first bubble in a day.
Oh no, I meant the regular market. So both markets basically.
Unregulated capitalism is fascist
Genuine question, is crypto good for anything other than gambling at the moment? I don’t ever hear of anyone buying anything with crypto, only exchanging it out for USD. NFTs are basically a punchline now… what is it actually good for?
It’s not untraceable, but it’s way more anonymous for routine purchases than CC. Also with all the nonsense the CC companies are pulling lately, it’s a nice example of why de-centralized, unbanked fiat has real value. Personally I use it for search engine subscriptions and paying VPN fees with at least a layer of “hey, you can’t sell my demographic data or send me junk mail” privacy. Also if you want to send money to someone without using venmo type garbage, it’s super easy and flexible even if you don’t have the same type of crypto as the person you are sending to. It’s huge for sending money internationally as there are big fees associated with international money brokers when involving traditional fiat.
The mantra of crypto as a scam is wrong. It’s just seriously overvalued and has been turned into scam as an investment commodity. The technology itself, at least modern scalable versions that don’t require AI level nuclear power plants to scale, is not flawed. The fact that the archiac unscalable bitcoin prototype is still the most valued is a great example of the mismatch between real world value and the fucked up crypto marketplace.If things go as they do, then it’ll be your only option soon to pay for porn.
It’s a really good way to bribe politicians and public figures.
It’s traceable and immutable. It’s a bad way to do anything illegal.
That’s just layer zero on some blockchains.
Maybe if you want to buy something visa, Mastercard, and Christian nut jobs don’t want you to have. Otherwise it’s a total scam.
Assuming you can find a buyer who will process that crypto, without touching either of those payment processors. All the crypto evangelists seem to forget the major crypto payment platforms are in use because you can actually rapidly exchange your crypto for that thing you can actually pay your rent with - but those function largely on the backbone of big payment platforms to trade that crypto into cash for the merchant.
RIP climate targets
Well the head of the EPA called climate change “a religion” so that ship has sailed for the US.
Funny that actual religion is being embraced by all the Republicans
It’s funny that they use it in a derogative way, but it’s not like they’ve ever been bothered with hypocrisy.
Only if Bitcoin remains predominant. The rest of the ecosystem largely moved on to proof-of-stake validation years ago, which doesn’t require significant amounts of energy expenditure.
The rest of the ecosystem largely moved on to proof-of-stake validation
Eh. Bitcoin mining alone accounts for about 0.7% of 2024 global CO₂ emissions annually, with 40% of that mining happening in US and Canada. 130.50 Mt is nothing to sneeze at.
The crypto industry was supposed to decarbonize by 2025 – how’s that going? There’s evidence the industry has started putting plans into action, but the energy consumption of Bitcoin networks is still higher than countries like Norway and Sweden
Far too little and too late.
I literally just said:
Only if Bitcoin remains predominant.
Yes, Bitcoin still uses proof-of-work. That’s because Bitcoin is itself a fossil, its userbase and developers have consciously decided to not adopt new blockchain technologies and remain locked in the current protocol. Other blockchains have continued moving on. Alas, Bitcoin has name recognition and inertia on its side, which will keep it around for a long time. But at some point I expect its obsolescence will catch up with it and overcome that inertia.
I think it’s early to call Bitcoin obsolete, it is still after all the dominant cryptocurrency by every measure.
Other blockchains have continued moving on.
So which systems do you see as offering real utility or innovation? Obviously there’s etherium, and it has its own issues, but what else out there do you think is really more than a just gimmick or a scheme?
Its technology is obsolete. That doesn’t mean it can’t still dominate the market share.
For example, a case could be made that coal power is obsolete. There are still plenty of coal power plants on the grid. Windows 8 is obsolete, but you’ll find plenty of computers still running it. And so forth. There’s inertia in these things.
And Bitcoin’s current “dominance” is 60%. That’s not exactly an overwhelming position.
So which systems do you see as offering real utility or innovation? Obviously there’s etherium
You answered your own question.
Ethereum’s not just one token, mind you. There’s an ecosystem on Ethereum with a lot of innovation that’s not directly rooted in Ethereum’s advances. That’s the benefit of supporting smart contracts, it’s a general purpose computer that other stuff can be run on. There are a lot of layer-2 blockchains running on Ethereum, for example Aztec which has Monero-like privacy built into it.
Proof of work is inherently ecologically flawed, but proof of stake is inherently socially flawed. It’s literally “the people with the most money get to make the rules”. While it’s undeniably better for the environment, it doesn’t seem like an improvement to me. If anything, it undermines crypto’s greatest strengths, decentralization and equal access.
It’s literally “the people with the most money get to make the rules”.
No, it’s not. Ether is not a governance token, Ether holders have no influence over the rules of the blockchain. This is a very common misconception and I can understand why it’s easy to fall into, but consider it this way; when someone puts up a stake they are not buying “influence” over the blockchain, they are giving the blockchain a hostage. They’re putting their money under the control of a contract that will destroy their money if they do anything that contravenes the rules of the blockchain.
So who gets to decide what rules the blockchain runs under? Everyone who uses it. They’re the ones who are generating transactions, and those transactions are cryptographically signed to work on the particular version of the blockchain that they want to use. If they collectively decide to switch to a different version of the blockchain then they collectively change what version of the blockchain their transactions are going to. If the stakers don’t go along with that transition then they’re left holding Ether on a blockchain that nobody is using, which means that Ether is valueless.
This isn’t hypothetical. Ethereum undergoes routine hard forks to upgrade the network, adding new features. Proof-of-stake itself was one such upgrade. There have been subsequent upgrades that did things to the network that the stakers probably weren’t happy with - notably the one that added EIP-1559, a change that causes transaction fees to be burned rather than giving them to the stakers. It was a change that literally took money out of the hands of the stakers. But they went along with it because they had to. They were not in charge.
If anything, it undermines crypto’s greatest strengths, decentralization and equal access.
How easily can you get into Bitcoin mining right now? Regular computer hardware doesn’t cut it, hasn’t cut it for a long time. You need a purpose-built ASIC, a piece of specialist hardware that is only manufactured by a handful of computer hardware companies. You’ll also need extremely cheap electricity, which you won’t be getting out of the wall of your house. You’ll need an industrial power feed, probably located somewhere near a power plant with excess capacity where you can get it particularly cheap.
If you want to set up a solo Ethereum validator, all you need to do is buy ~$120,000 worth of Ether and make a transaction to stake it. You can do that anywhere. No special hardware is needed, no ongoing significant power cost. You do need a reasonably stable internet connection, but it doesn’t have to be a high-speed one. You could probably do it from a cabin in the woods over Starlink. Nobody can stop you. Nobody will even know who you are.
If $120,000 is a bit much for you (it’s still far less than would be required for a Bitcoin mining farm) and you don’t mind a little bit of reliance on third parties, you could buy some liquid staking tokens. Spend as little as you want, they subdivide. Or wait a little while, Ethereum’s devs are mulling a proposal to reduce the minimum stake from 32 Ether to 1 Ether. That’ll reduce the price for setting up a solo validator to $3,683 at today’s price.
This was a really interesting reply, thanks. I’d leave a longer response, but honestly I really need to be asleep right now.
If $120,000 is a bit much for you (it’s still far less than would be required for a Bitcoin mining farm)
I will say though, even today the barrier for entry is lower than that for bitcoin mining. You can definitely get started for $1000. I wouldn’t really recommend Bitcoin mining as a hobby at this point, but that’s basically the low end for a single machine.
Personally, that’s about as much as I ever spent on mining equipment, and it was fun, I learned a lot, and it was even lucrative in the end.
This was a really interesting reply, thanks. I’d leave a longer response, but honestly I really need to be asleep right now.
No problem. It’s past my bedtime too, but I’m really pleased that I’m able to discuss this stuff and I’m not getting downvotes or called a shill simply for providing information. It’s always been a big area of fascination for me, the technology is really neat. :)
You can definitely get started for $1000.
Sure, you could set up something that can process blocks. But there’s no way you’d be able to make a profit with something that small. One of the fundamental tenets of cryptocurrency is that it doesn’t rely on anyone acting altruistically, it assumes that everyone involved is in it for the money. It leverages greed to ensure that everyone “follows the rules”, by making it so that if you break those rules you make less money. So I wouldn’t consider a blockchain to be secure if it depended on miners who mined at a loss out of the goodness of their hearts. When people worry about centralization they overlook that Bitcoin has economies of scale that massively favors the bigger mining operations, the dollars-per-hash are much lower for the warehouses full of ASICs next door to a power plant than for the guy with a graphics card in a closet at home.
I did also mention that you could get involved in staking on Ethereum for much less than $120,000, at the cost of depending on third parties to handle the actual validation. You can do that either through staking pools or liquid staking. Essentially, you own a “share” of a single validator’s stake and get a proportionate portion of the validator’s rewards, minus a fee that the validator charges for actually running the validator.
Sounds like another pump and dump scheme to inflate prices of popular crypto, which trump and his buddies already bought cheap, sell high, and then reverse the process after profits have been made. All this guy knows is money. It’s not even the value, just getting a payday is his high.
Deregulate? Because there’s oh so many regulations already?
Oh Boy, it’s Great Depression 2: Electric Boogaloo!
speedrunning the destruction of the us economy and the fall of the us. you love to see it.
I see we’re putting the crypto in cryptofascist.
Or maybe it’s the other way around.
Something something Venn diagram is a circle something.
Those greedfuck assholes. Never fucking learning anything.
Will this mean that I won’t need to report every single transaction on my tax returns?
It would be real useful to use crypto for international money transfers.
hopefuly not, the IRS needs some way to track income based on the fluctuating value of crypto. yall gotta pay taxes like the rest of us.
