• kibiz0r@midwest.socialEnglish
    4 months

    Lemme share the tea for anyone who isn’t aware:

    • Owl house is a show by Dana Terrace that ran on Disney
    • It slowly developed into big pro-LGBTQ themes
    • Disney panicked, cancelled the show, claimed it was unpopular despite excellent ratings
    • Dana Terrace left with a bunch of others to form an independent studio
    • Their first show (Knights of Guinevere) features a floating amusement park that rains garbage all over the workers below, and robots that have orbs on their heads that produce a silhouette strikingly similar to that of Mickey Mouse
    • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.netEnglish
      4 months

      I liked that although Knights of Guinevere was clearly ragging on Disney, it felt like it wasn’t just a cathartic trauma dump from Dana Terrace and crew — it was actually being used to say something meaningful. It’s a good sign when the pilot episode of a show has such a strong sense of themes.

      I’d heard a lot of hype when the pilot was released, but didn’t get around to watching it until I randomly thought “I wonder what Dana Terrace is up to nowadays? Hopefully she’s working somewhere better than Disney, because surely there must be someone with power out there who recognised how Disney was squandering her potential”. When I saw that it was her and some of the Owl House team who made Knights of Guinevere, that caused me to immediately go watch it. The only disappointment was that we don’t know when new episodes will be available, but hopefully things will be regular once we do start getting episodes.

      • Kovukono@pawb.socialEnglish
        4 months

        It absolutely is not. The swearing alone would make it inappropriate for kids, but one of the scenes literally has someone using another person’s intestines as a leash. It’s an excellent pilot, but not for kids like The Owl House was.

      • Barbecue Cowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4 months

        We only have one episode but so far it’s not exactly young kid appropriate… but it’s not fully adult animation either. The limited gore is slightly disturbing but technically from something comparable to a robot and while it does have some swearing it’s not often.

        From my individual perspective as a parent, mine watched it and I’d say around 10 or so, you’d probably be okay. Best practice in my opinion though is always going to be to watch it yourself first and see how you feel.

    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
      4 months

      Their first show (Knights of Guinevere) features a floating amusement park that rains garbage all over the workers below, and robots that have orbs on their heads that produce a silhouette strikingly similar to that of Mickey Mouse

      Oh shit is Knights of Guinevere out?

    • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      4 months

      was the tweet in regards to something or just genai in general? like was disney+ specifically changing something about owl house and genai? (i agree disney is terrible i was just curious)

    • Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.comdeleted by creatorEnglish
      4 months

      Is Owl House mainly a kids show? It seems like it.

      Same question for Knights of Guinevere? Kids, YA, a bit of both but also interesting for adults?

      • Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4 months

        Sure, just like disney movies it’s made primarily for pubescent humans. Won’t stop my ass from watching it.

    • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      4 months

      Maybe a little, but I think it fits pretty well, if you look at this from a “fuck copyright” angle. It’s easy to see the problems with what Disney is doing here and in general.

  • PMP@aussie.zoneEnglish
    4 months

    I don’t know what The Owl House is. But from what I can gather I can now watch season one for free?

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    4 months

    Um, for those of us only just now finding out about this situation, what’s the AI issue here? Did they pirate some of Dana’s work with their AI, or is she inherently opposed to AI and Disney is just using it in general and that’s why she’s angry?

    Full details: some people glean implications from people’s posts, I just want to clarify: I don’t care about AI, I’m just lost on what’s happening here (I only just discovered Dana Terrace exists after only just recently watching the owl house and being told about her other works, so I’m curious about if her stuff is being pirated by Disney via whatever AI stuff they’re doing)

      • Barbecue Cowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4 months

        No clue what Disney is thinking here.

        Beyond the implications to artists, people are going to get around any guardrails you can set up and when they do it’s going to be on every news outlet and they’ll all be saying that Disney officially approved use of its IP on these platforms.

        • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          4 months

          People will immediately figure out how to make porn or Elsagate-type shit and Disney will get a bunch of angry parents asking why little Timmy was able to make videos of Goofy butchering and eating Donald Duck while completely naked.

          • Barbecue Cowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            4 months

            Exactly, that is just going to happen, it’s going to gain a lot of traction no matter how good/bad it is, and Disney is going to be implicated because now its ‘official’.

          • chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            4 months

            Right now we are getting age verification everywhere. So this might very well become a adult only feature. Maybe a children version that is restricted to a symbolic interface.

        • chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          4 months

          I think they are trying to frontear new legal ideas regarding copyright law. That the IP still belongs to the platform/corporation after it went through a generative AI.

          This sucks from an artist/worker pov. This sucks from public domain pov. But I think it’s reachable goal, especially for Disney.

  • groet@feddit.orgEnglish
    4 months

    I have absolutely no clue how to parse that title. What situation? Who has a positive view? Just what?

    • metaStatic@kbin.earth
      4 months

      it’s the Disney+ jammed in there

      simply replace it with “Disney’s” and it makes more sense.

    • LiamBox@lemmy.mlEnglish
      4 months

      Disney wants AI generated content in Disney+

      They want AI generated cartoons to increase profits.

  • MalReynolds@piefed.socialEnglish
    4 months

    White cis male attesting Owl House rocks, and yes, I did pirate it. Much Love.