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        • I see your point. There are varying degrees of experience. And participating or doing can definitely lead to the greater form. But the way you’re using the terms seems arbitrary.

          • How is it arbitrary? You said that people learn best by observing. I disagree. People learn best by doing, not just seeing. You’re the one who has apparently conflated seeing and doing. Observation and experience are distinct things

            • No actually I didn’t say that.

              Forget it.

              I think that this conversation you’re having here is 99% with yourself.