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Your car’s tire sensors could be used to track you - IMDEA Networks
networks.imdea.orgResearchers at IMDEA Networks Institute, together with European partners, have found that tire pressure sensors in modern cars can unintentionally expose drivers to tracking. Over a ten-week study, they collected signals from more than 20,000 vehicles, revealing a hidden privacy risk and highlighting the need for stronger security measures in future vehicle sensor systems. Most...
The fact that you’ve gotten away with it is not proof that it’s unnecessary. The fact that it was legally mandated is good evidence that it is. These systems save lives, no question about it.
lots of things are legally mandated without any good evidence.
Lots of things legally mandated in the past are now unconscionable or illegal now.
Legal != effective or ethical, that is an unbelievably stupid argument for TPMS.
LOL who said anything about ethics? This is an unbelievably stupid strawman.
indeed, you said this:
but their point was laws are not always made with good intentions and safety in mind. that’s not to say TPMS is required for secret surveillance, but that there being a law for it does not immediately mean there’s good purpose for that law.
Indeed, that had nothing to do with ethics.
Do you believe law and ethics are separable? Does your “these systems save lives” not speak to the very reasoning employed to codify an ethical position into the law of the land?
Why are we still talking about ethics? I’m not going to entertain this strawman any further.
yes it has, when a law not only just does not have good purpose, but even malicious, but even when the added safety is not outweighed by the bad things it does
P1 If X was legally mandated then that is good evidence that X is necessary.
P2 Slavery was legally mandated (in the USA)
C1 There is good evidence slavery is necessary.
P3 [insert other silly/abhorrent thing here: ICE in general, state murder…] was legally mandated.
C2 There is good evidence silly/abhorrent thing is necessary.
Personally I’d reject P1, the law isn’t an arbitrator of mortality, or truth. Due to C2 I’d side eye anyone who says it is.
What a shockingly wrong take. TPMS is a convenience, not a safety measure, have properly inflated tires is. And, anyone who properly maintains their car, doesn’t need it
And, it’s not legally mandated everywhere, even if it is for you.
What an incredibly bad take. Indeed, having properly inflated tires is a safety issue. How do you know if they’re properly inflated? Are you checking them every 3 minutes while driving? Because TPMS is…
Because I was bored
GIDAS data
https://www.ircobi.org/wordpress/downloads/irc0111/2009/Session2/2_3.pdf
It concludes that even if you increased grip, which includes tire pressure variance, by 15%, it would only represent a reduction of 2% of road related fatalities, which is actually within the margin of error.
While 2% sounds like a lot, GIDAS also shows that tire failures account for less than 1% of road accidents causing death.
So you’re spending $300 to $500 on a new car for a TPMS which reduces the probability of accidental death by 0.02%.
And fun fact, most tire related accidents are actually from tread depth, not low pressure, and TPMS will do fuck all to tell you your tread depth is low.
It’s nothing to do with grip. In fact, a lower tire pressure will actually increase grip.
Oh well if no one died it must not be a safety issue?
Uhhh nope, it comes with the car…
So we’re just going to ignore it as a safety issue because it’s not a main cause of collisions?
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Your personal insults are only reflecting poorly on you.
They come with the car. Every car. Doesn’t matter how much they cost. They are not optional. It is not a choice your can make.
They didn’t come with my car. My car does not have a TPMS sensor. Your “every car comes with them” statement is blatantly false.
And, I am not insulting you, if anything I am sad for you. I made what I believe is an honest assessment of your intellectual capabilities based on your lack of understanding with how parts inside an automobile are priced and the nonsensical responses you have given to cogent points.
It doesn’t matter if it’s mandated for inclusion where you live, that doesn’t mean it’s free. You are paying for it. In fact, you are paying for sensors to be replaced multiple times over the life of the vehicle, another thing which most people won’t do. So, every 3 to 8 years (depending on various factors), you have to replace the TPMS sensors, pay another $300 to $500 for something which does sweet fuck all for your safety.
Them you have an old car. Every new car comes with them, and has for a long time, because it’s required by law.
If you don’t think calling me stupid is an insult then I have “assessed your intellectual capabilities” and decided you’re actually a moron.
I didn’t say it was free. I said it was included and not a choice you have to make. Someone who’s not a moron would have understood that.
LOL what? Who told you that!?
It monitors your tire pressure. That’s important for safety, as I’ve outlined several times now.
Because I am not a complete fucking idiot.
If you truly believe that nonsense you are spewing, your probably shouldn’t be driving. You are unaware of the operational aspects of your vehicle and are a danger to the people around you.
Mmmmmm
WTF is a “operational aspect”?