im currently using windows 11 on msi gf63 laptop. if i used linux i would use ubuntu,bec it seems like the easiest thing.

i game,i use brave browser,i pirate games and software. i also like that my hoarded pirated binaries of games and software will work even years later on windows without too much effort.

i use an hp printer,and need to be able to use it on linux.

i expect to be able to use the laptop and not think about the os too much,meaning i wont distro hop or try to customize it too much. im fine with the terminal,my goal of using linux is being far from malware.

  • broadly, gain flexibility, lose familiarity. just try it and see.

    one thing i’ll spell out, you’ve likely never had to consider the logic by which windows loads dll versions. essentially, if you put a modified dll file in the same folder as an executable, when the executable calls for it that modified dll will be loaded instead of the system’s builtin version. game and software cracks sometimes rely on this principle. but on linux via wine/proton, that isn’t the case. so you’ll need to configure wine/proton to do a “dll override” in some cases (i.e when your game/software crack utilizes a modified dll). the process is pretty straight-forward, the main thing is knowing you need to do it.

  • Ciao, first of all, there are games that use kernel-level anti-cheat software that will not work. The good news is that many companies, seeing the growth of the Linux market, are taking remedial action. For example, EA recently announced that it will adapt its anti-cheat software for Linux. For pirated games, you can install fit-girl with bottles and use bottles to run the games as well. Technically, they should work even after years, because bottles creates a container with all the dependencies it needs to run and is isolated from the rest of the OS. It probably won’t be easy to learn how to use Linux tools right away, but it’s mostly a matter of habit, so first of all, be patient if some things don’t work right away. If you have problems, you can always ask the community. For simpler problems, AI can also be useful.

  • If you are invested in Windows software… don’t run Linux. Being able to run Windows software is like a “patch” to get you by until you find a Linux equivalent. Pretending you can have your cake and eat it too will just leave you disappointed.

    Linux has amazing software… but in most cases it feels very different from Windows. If you learn why it is different then you may start to appreciate Linux for what it gives you rather than what it takes from you.

    • im not invested no. all of software i use is generic and can be replaced by linux apps easily. what i really want to work is my browser (brave) and my pirated games.

      so what will i gain or lose with linux?

  • You lose:

    • Your corporate shackles

    You gain:

    • Limitless bragging rights
      • 57 minutes

        You loose battery life if on a laptop. Battery life is not as good as on windows. And Apple laptops have insane battery life. I wish ARM laptops where a thing for Linux.

  • You try it and see if it fits you. This is not a religion. You use what works for you.

    • i did try it its nice. i just didnt use it long enough to know if i would lose anything. so can you tell me?

      • You are the only one who can answer that. Things will change, but if you qualify that as a loss that’s up to you.

        In my experience with Linux, where there is a will there is a way. If you want something to run badly enough it will simply work.

        Personally I still play Dark Souls and Dark Souls 3 a lot, including mods, randomizer etc. I’ve even used cheat engine on those, for example to spawn items at the start of the game to do challenge runs. That’s old software and primarily designed for Windows, it runs just fine on Linux tho.

  • Depends really on the games and software you require.

    For games, check:

    In general, indies and singleplayer games generally work fine. Battlefield/Fortnite/etc hugely popular multiplayer stuff with kernel-level anticheats generally doesn’t.

    I’ve only ever set up few printers to work on linux, and they’ve been bigger office printers. And they’ve all worked with minimal effort. Absolutely no idea about home printers.

    • I’ve only ever set up few printers to work on linux, and they’ve been bigger office printers. And they’ve all worked with minimal effort. Absolutely no idea about home printers.

      Most (all?) printers and scanners released in past decade and some supports driverless printing and scanning. As long as you have printing related systems installed on your computer, most printers should be just plug and play. Especially those that are connected over network.

      • Wine works well for me on Manjaro. Once it’s installed and run for the first time, it’s been seamless. I think every now and then you might find a game that requires an additional patch to run.

      • The daw/music software? Just wine. used wine to install the app & vst plugins, then just using the “start menu” shortcut for the app to run it. I did have to use winetricks to install dxvk on the prefix (without it, some plugin ui’s did not work properly), but after that it works fine.

        as for “does it run good” - well enough for me. Some of the guitar/bass amps and instruments I use seem to use noticeably more cpu than on windows

        • i never play any online games only pirated ones. i do have fitgirl call of duty tho,would that work?

          would you recommend i get linux?

          • I don’t know, I don’t play cod. See the links from previous replies for that.

            as for should you get linux, only you can answer that once you’ve done the research

            • i suppose i can try running it there. i think it should work bec it would be striped of drm

    • Absolutely no idea about home printers.

      I have 2, a samsung and a canon :3 both work OOTB. Can’t speak on HP printers, but chances are OP can find that with a web search of the model

    1. Ubuntu is a great place to start! You might also look at Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop or Pop_OS. All 3 are great for beginners and have lasted me since the time of Win Vista. I never felt that I out grew them.

    2. Gaming: use the other links in this post to see if they work. Typically, the older the game, the better chance you can get it to work. Don’t be afraid of following tutorials - tweaking and trying things, just be patient, read it once all the way through before you do it, and google what you don’t understand. It’ll take time but I’ve always felt it’s worth it.

    3. Brave, yup native linux version. Some might suggest going to firefox or using vivaldi, but you do you Boo - 0 judgement space. (Political reasons - the Brave CEO is a cryptobro, etc)

    4. Ahoy matey, welcome aboarrrd. Get yourself a good vpn service, stick to the major distros, and you’ll probably be right at home.

    5. More than likely, your printer will just work. That easy. I’ve had several printers and scanners, hated them all, no end of troubles with mac and windows - not at all with linux in the last 15 years. The man that does most of the work for linux printing is a gawt damn saint.

    6. You should be right at home in Ubuntu. Gnome does a decent job of getting out of your way once you get used to it. Keep your guard up, I would assume windows malware might still be able to run in wine and it def will in a vm.

    Bottom line is you can trust Linux. The learning curve is worth not having an adversarial relationship with your computer.

  • i use an hp printer,and need to be able to use it on linux.

    Then research if your specific model has compatibility issues (AFAIK HP stuff generally works well, but… it’s up to you to check before buying)

    i expect to be able to use the laptop and not think about the os too much

    That will happen, if you are lucky or if you buy hardware that specifically supports linux.

    Would you expect macos to run on a dell computer? would you expect windows to run on a mac? linux has much broad compatibility but is no different: if it doesn’t work on your PC it’s not linux’s fault.

    my goal of using linux is being far from malware

    Just follow basic hygiene and you’ll be fine. Most importantly, don’t install malware yourself (chrome is available on linux too and, sadly, it’s also widely used).

    • what exactly is basic hygiene on linux? on windows it would be to scan your stuff,make sure its the real site etc

      • on windows it would be to scan your stuff,make sure its the real site etc

        It’s the same on Linux (*), with two big differences:

        1. you’ll install most (all?) of your software from the repos of your distro of choice, so most of the times you don’t have to worry
        2. linux is inherently more secure than Windows (and AFAIK there are less viruses targeting it, either because they are harder to write or because it’s a smaller target), so you are not as likely to catch viruses.

        If you install niche software from app stores (even reputable ones), you’ll have to make sure to check it’s the real deal (I think both the snap store and flathub had fake cryptowallets?), but if you stick to relatively mainstream software you’ll be fine (I mean, it’s not like you’ll find fake versions of steam or blender on flathub).

        That said, the risk is there just as with Windows (or your phone, or anything else): a good operative system helps, but ultimately you are the real line of defense.

        (*) well, IDK about scanning… generally speaking, if you feel like you have to scan something before opening it, just don’t open it :) (yeah I know it’s not possible if - eg - you receive files from customers)

  • You can get an HP printer without much worry. Games are pretty easy but pirates games are trickier since they might rely on some cracks that are hard to replicate (not my forte). If they are older, you could run them in a virtual machine without much difficulty. I recommend getting a simple Linux mint in a virtual box to see if you like it.

  • Gaming, cracks and mods would be the biggest issue. Linux gaming happens on Steam, outside of that you’re pretty much never guaranteed to get it running.
    So if you have a large library of pirated games, Linux might not be for you.

    • There’s a number of ways to get non-steam games to run through proton or other compatibility tools.

      I’m not the expert on that matter because basically everything I play is on steam, but off the top of my head Lutris comes to mind

      As far as mods, I’m not a huge modder, so again I’m probably the wrong person, but the handful of mods I do use (mostly some basic quality of life/bug-fix things) I’ve been able to get running on Linux without too much drama. No, there’s not currently a nifty tool like Vortex to automate it for you and you have to manually copy files to the right place and such, but most mods tell you that information, so all you need to do is get used to the folders you’re looking for living in a slightly different place than they did on windows. YMMV if you use more complicated mods than I do of course.

      • yep, this.

        basically, games that need some extra dll file to get mods running, it’s generally just adding WINEDLLOVERRIDES=“nameofthedll=n,b” as env var for the game and off to modded adventures it is.

        I haven’t tested this, but fairly sure you could just install vortex, mo2 or whatever other modmanager to same prefix as where the game is.

        • I haven’t tested this, but fairly sure you could just install vortex, mo2 or whatever other modmanager to same prefix as where the game is.

          Yeah, you can use protontricks to execute any executable inside the WINE environment. You can take the command used to do that and put it in a .desktop file so you can run the program from a desktop icon or launcher.

          Installing mods mostly considered a ‘problem’ by the standard of gaming on Steam where you just press play and let Proton take the wheel. If you were running games through WINE prior to Proton, it is much easier now.

        • Installing Vortex in the same prefix definitly works. But there is also Steam Tinker Launch that will manage varius mod managers for you if the game is at least launched through steam.

        • I haven’t tested this, but fairly sure you could just install vortex, mo2 or whatever other modmanager to same prefix as where the game is.

          mostly, though mo2 at least has had pretty bad ui issues every time i’ve tried
          granted the last time was ~6 months ago and there may be workarounds that i didn’t find for whatever reason but ymmv

      • There’s some options, but it’s not something I’d rely on to work.
        In my experience, there’s about a 10% chance to get something running straight out of the box with Wine, 30% with helpers like Lutris.
        With Steam it’s more like 90%, which is about the same as on Windows.