- Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 hours
It AI worked, we would have had self driving cars by now.
I can’t think of anything good that we have today cause of AI that we didn’t have 5 years ago.
- ksh@aussie.zoneEnglish2 hours
Even from source documents fed to notebooklm, it has been confidently giving me wrong advice back to back. These non deterministic tools can be useful but can also be dangerous for our work.
- jtrek@startrek.websiteEnglish17 hours
I’m so tired of every job posting frothing at the mouth over AI. “We’re ai native” , “we want employees who are excited about ai tools”, “agenic workflows”
Just fuck off.
Even if all of this stuff was a real productivity increase, who is keeping that extra production? Not the workers!
- vala@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish7 hours
They always want you to be excited about things that don’t benefit you in any way.
- 4am@lemmy.zipEnglish16 hours
Because they’re blatantly using it to try and enslave us?
Like, not even metaphorically.
- 17 hours
Fun fact: Data centers in the US are completely vulnerable to UAS attack vectors.
17 hoursWhat is UAS? drones? Yeah but iran I don’t think can reach them, otherwise yeah
- 18 hours
People find AI to be irritating because of its flaws and failure to deliver. They are also angry about big tech suggesting that AI will force real humans out of human spaces. The arts, media, research, science, the work force etc.
The “anxiety” is mostly fear of exactly what’s being promised at the detriment of the people expected to fund it. Anyone who’s got eyes and ears knows that the venture capital well will run dry eventually.
There is no return on investment for the vast majority of regular every day humans living in this world at this time. Not where AI is concerned. It isn’t hard to follow what is being marketed to its conclusion. Tech Oligarchs have been saying the quiet part out loud since the begining.
AI will replace workers. AI will replace people who make art and music, and write things. AI will replace.
They even tell us they know it’s a flawed replacement that they can’t make better. And they pretty much tell us that they haven’t found a way to monetize it so it’s sustainable which basically means one way or another they will be looking for people to pay more for it.
People have started thinking about what that means and naturally they don’t like it. Tech Bros are selling this dream of replacing us but we don’t have any money to pay more for a product that doesn’t produce anything worthwhile for the cost. Especially not if you’re replacing them and there is no safety net.
- Zink@programming.devEnglish14 hours
AI will replace workers. AI will replace people who make art and music, and write things.
This part made me think how I’ve commented recently that AI does the thing it was designed to do, but that the thing it was designed to do is generate something you could believe somebody wrote on the internet.
That doesn’t mean the answer is correct, of course. It’s often confidently wrong, just like real people online!
But when it comes to artistic expression, there is no clear right or wrong. Music, art, and the written word are some of the most human things we have, but you are absolutely right that they will be replaced. If a marketing director can pay Google a few dollars to generate a hundred concept drawings so they can do “I’ll know it when I see it” design, that’s a human artist job they won’t budget for.
There’s often a tacit acknowledgment to the poor quality of AI output, but that they do not care, the strategy is to flood the zone with so much garbage as to make it irrelevant. It’s a grift-conomy mindset, the focus is on “velocity” and “productivity” to the detriment of all else.
we’re living in a gish gallop society - politics, AI, it’s all overloading the polity with so many outrageous events they can’t react to the last one, much less the outrage 4 days ago… and unfortunately it’s working.
I don’t know any solutions - damn near anything you do will be labelled insurrection and treason, jfc, they’re suing SPLC for supporting white supremacist orgs for paying… informants.
ultra fucking stupid, but sadly effective, because most of america wants to stay out of politics and not confront the difficult shit ahead.
- zd9@lemmy.worldEnglish20 hours
It’s not AI that’s the problem. AI is an amazingly powerful tool (I’m an AI researcher).
The problem is that it’s in the hands of psychotic technofascist greedy subhumans that want to destroy basically all of society so their stock can go up 0.001%. If we can cut out the source of the cancer, the body can begin to heal itself.
- Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 hours
amazingly powerful tool
Is it? I keep hearing people keep parroting this but what big advancements have we made cause of AI?
As a developer, I keep hearing this but all I see is low quality software that is all smoke and mirrors. Pumping out low quality code at a high pace is worse than pumping out less but higher quality code.
- 11 hours
I want to agree with you, but AI is just another psychopath in a world where we don’t need any more psychopaths.
The problem is that it’s in the hands of psychotic technofascist greedy subhumans
gee maybe people like you shouldn’t have put those tools into the shitbag’s hands?
I remember a decade ago multiple movements to reign in AI before it became uncontrollable, and any chance of that is long fuckin gone. we’re gonna barrel forward heedless of the danger, because fuck you that guy wants profits and doesn’t care about humanity.
and people like you made the tools and gave it to 'em.
- badgermurphy@lemmy.worldEnglish12 hours
That seems terribly extreme. Its not like its a bomb that is obviously for blowing people up. Someone made something with some cool applications, then some guys with many times more money and resources than anyone should be allowed to have, took the idea and ran with it toward a bunch of psychotic ends.
The problem isn’t that people can use good things for bad purposes, nor is it the people that make or improve those things. The root cause is that western society is currently structured in a way that ends up rewarding certain types of madness, and the reward structure is set up such that individuals can get a vast undue amount of influence and power. Under these conditions, it is natural that even a tiny number of such individuals can overtake the system like a single cancer cell can eventually kill someone. All of these alarming things going on for over 60 years are symptoms of that societal illness. Please don’t blame scientists for sciencing.
- 19 hours
Right! If you don’t count the mass surveillance boost, the autonomous killing machines they’re trying to make, the environmental impact, the pillaging of our individual experiences, and the destruction of all our shared spaces online, AI is a pretty cool tool.
Narrator: actually, no it was not.
e.g. it still spreads misinformation.
- chunes@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
Making no mistakes is a much higher standard than that which we hold to ourselves. Why are people moving the goalposts of intelligence or usefulness behind perfection?
Bc when I use a calculator, I actually DO expect literal perfection. And when I use google search, I expect it to be “useful”. And when I find information in Wikipedia, I expect it to be somewhat authoritative, even if incomplete. And if I use automative driving features, I expect them not to completely take over the wheel and crash me into a brick wall… or to a little child in a crosswalk right in front of me.
People who drive drunk lose their privileges to drive anymore. Employees who screw up that often get fired. Doctors who dispense incorrect medical advice lose their ability to practice medicine, plus get exposed to lawsuits. Counselors who tell their patients to kill themselves… Anyway, people DO experience the consequences of their actions, like ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
Whereas in contrast, AI is said that it is “going to be” great, not that it is great now. Fine, finish it and then we’ll talk. In the meantime, stop shoving it in front of my face.
If AI is like a human, it’s at best 2-year-old and at worst more like 6 months. It should not be “in charge”, e.g. of dispensing medical advice. But since it takes so much time to check its results for errors, it is literally slower and more painful to use it than to not use it (sometimes, often in fact).
You have a point somewhere buried in your mind, as revealed by the insightful first sentence, but your phrasing in the second sentence reads like sea-lioning and is not helping. Nobody is asking for “behind perfection” as that is literally mathematically impossible, and that is not what “moving the goalposts” means. It should not be enough to sound intelligent - we need to actually be such (same for AI as well).
- 9 hours
-is an AI researcher -immediately uses Nazi lingo after introducing themselves
you can’t be more obvious than this about the ideology of AI💀
- theparadox@lemmy.worldEnglish19 hours
I was excited about the idea of purpose-built systems trained on specific datasets to be help find complex patterns to diagnose diseases or suggest potential molecules for specific purposes.
Then the LLM shit started and everyone started fantasizing about intelligent “AI” just because it was able to reproduce patterns of language that seem relevant to a given input. Some of those funding it kept chasing that dream and are convinced that, if they just throw more compute at the problem, they can evolve the renaissance AGI that can do anything. Then they can fire every worker and be bazillionaires with robot slaves and never have to work another day of their lives… and fuck everyone and everything else.
It’s amazing what we can ruin when we let greed and selfishness drive our society.
- roux2scour@jlai.luEnglish16 hours
At 1million i could already stop working and live decent life :/. I really don’t get why past 1billion they continue to search for more
- theparadox@lemmy.worldEnglish15 hours
Maybe it’s because I’ve only ever had at most a comfortable income but I truly don’t understand the mentality of needing so much money.
I don’t get paid as much as my peers but I make enough to be comfortable. I am my own department and, aside from emergencies and other high priority situations, I manage myself and choose what to work on when. I have a decent work life balance. Because I make enough to be comfortable (in large part because my landlord promised not to raise our rent - early in the COVID lockdown - if we were “good tenants” and has managed to keep true to her word) I don’t feel the need for more. That balance is worth not making the 20% more a year I might get somewhere else because I can’t guarantee I won’t have a shitty boss that doesn’t let me have that work/life balance.
- Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish18 hours
The lack of regulation of AI is absolutely a serious problem, there are so many problems your comment isn’t even funny.
Problems with people using it for health advice.
Problems with teens using it instead of friends.
Problems with AI giving absurdly incorrect advice to people in general, but also professionals like managers and CEO’s.
Problems with data-centers that host these AI systems require enormous amounts of power. So much researchers have shown these data centers are drying up vast areas around the centers.The techno-fascists are in all sorts of business, that’s not special for AI. The problem is with AI the techno-fascists aren’t regulated in any way.
Neither how their data centers impact the environment and the electric grid, or how AI has actual bad effects for their customers, because there is no regulation on the use or supply of AI services. Indeed.
To cut off their data and revenue streams, stick to Open Source, locally run, models and chatbots.
- ag10n@lemmy.worldEnglish19 hours
It’s amazing how open source has benefitted the individual. The monopolization of compute is still a barrier we’ll have to crash through
- 19 hours
It’s always been that way, it’s just that until now the general public could say “well at least they pay me.”
So ironically this rise in anxiety is itself being driven by self-interest. People were fine with those people being in charge as long as they got a comfortable lifestyle out of it. A pattern seen throughout history.
- Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish19 hours
For who is it growing? Is it the same people that use AI to “discuss” personal problems because the AI is always nice to them? (yes this is really a thing, especially with young people).
Or people who use AI to be “creative”?
Or the people that use AI to seek health advice?There are many good reasons to worry about AI, but my guess is that most the people that worry, do it for the wrong reasons.
Apart from the bad advice, and annoying AI customer services, and possibly taking jobs and potentially being a danger to humanity because leaders trust the AI. There may be a much closer and more imminent danger.The movie “Good Luck, Have Fun, Don’t Die” seemed a bit stupid when I first saw it, but goddam the movie has a point, that’s how it’s actually turning out for some people. They choose to live with an AI generated fantasy, created specifically to make them feel good!! A fantasy where they are always right, and are amazing artists, and where the AI is a better “friend” than actual friends.
I predict that AI will be worse than any cult in taking away family and friends.
