• 7 hours

    That’s this universe we live in, the powers that be actively fighting progress, yet progress still is made. I’m grateful to those who progress technology and apply it to benefit humanity. The Drump administration just keeps losing.

  • Well that’s good news, at least.

    And honestly, that was such a stupid fucking hill for him to want to die on - and he wants to die on a whole fucking lot of stupid hills.

  • 8 hours

    And then Orange will claim they support wind energy when the energy cost drop.

    • The fuckin pedophile will claim to have helped invent wind energy and his entire base will cheer on in triumph. He’d go go on further to exclaim that democrats were secretly trying to pressure him into stopping it, that’s why the push back at first but he prevailed and now the Earth is saved from evil Obama who tried to destroy it.

  • My question is, why does it matter who in government supports what?

    Let the people decide what to use or not themselves.

    Personally, I love solar. If I could afford to buy a bunch of panels and batteries, I’d be generating my own electricity, and happily tell my power company to suck my dick.

    Decentralization should not be so controversial!

    • My question is, why does it matter who in government supports what?

      Because they were actively holding back required approvals for the wind farms to begin operations.

      • And that’s another thing, why do we need approval to build whatever the fuck we want on land we own?

        • In this case, height restrictions. It’s normally just a pro forma notification to the military that you’re building something above a certain height so they know not to crash into it. It got weaponised by the trump admin.

          • The military can go around, they’re not supposed to be on my property anyway. It’s my property, I should be able to do what I want on it.

            Just more government overreach.

            You think that sort of thing is new, or limited to just half of the Uniparty?

            Or do you actually realize it’s not and are simply simping for your chosen side of the same stupid bird?

            Fuck em both, and fuck anyone who wants “their side” to win. I am so sick and tired of having to deal with these kinds of power hungry assholes.

            • Or do you actually realize it’s not and are simply simping for your chosen side of the same stupid bird?

              Me: Answers questions with facts

              You: Simp!

              Dude, I’ve never even been to the States.

              The military can go around, they’re not supposed to be on my property anyway.

              Also in case you didn’t realise, we’re talking airspace. Those turbines are way high.

              • Again, what gives anyone the right to determine what someone else puts on land they own?

                You seem to actively want people to have to obey someone else, and if that’s not sucking authoritarian cock I don’t know what is.

                • You keep ascribing desires to me when I’ve done nothing more than explain the current situation… I have not stated a single opinion of mine in this thread thus far.

    • 5 hours

      Because if you dont have some kind of regulation it ends up being about market forces, which has even less to do with the will of the people and more to do with what makes a very few people rich.

      The main issue with government intervention isnt that “government bad”, it’s that those same few rich people have more influence on it than the will of the people. In a large part because those people would rather cede that power to them rather than make any kind of rational decision.

      Its good that green energy is benefiting from market forces right now… but it’s a fair weather friend, and as soon as something else is more likely to make some rich asshole more money, it will be tossed back in the junk heap to rot.

      • Without the people buying things, those rich don’t exist. All regulations really do is line the pockets of the already existing companies and make it harder for the small guy working out of his garage.

        People have forgotten that the wallet is the most powerful way to vote. Don’t buy their product and they won’t make any money.

        • 3 hours

          And without those rich people making them, they have nothing to buy. They dont just magically appear for people to buy. That is a misconception (or misdirection, rather) with how consumer action works. You cant take action if the rich dont let you in those situations.

          The wallet is only as powerful as the people who run your economy, and generally less so.

        • 2 hours

          All regulations really do is line the pockets of the already existing companies and make it harder for the small guy working out of his garage.

          And protect the environment from wanton pollution and destruction, and provide workers with guarantees against their employer, and keep needlessly dangerous products from hurting customers, and…

        • Personally, I find regulations to be a bandaid over a legitimate problem: shareholder misalignment. Really, companies should only ever be consumer and worker coöps since those are the direct stakeholders and the reason businesses exist in the first place. Shareholders aren’t needed and only serve as a form of parasitic wealth extraction that feeds capital accural, cartel formation, and monopolization.

          • 2 hours

            Even a perfect utopian co-op needs regulations beacuse most people don’t know anything about environmental impact or proper safety precautions.

    • Nor is decentralization controversial. And there can be a conversation about making sure it is not actively discouraged.

      But economies of scale are real. Does that mean a single power plant for the entire US, continent, world is a good idea? Of course not. Nor is 8.3 billion* individual installations.

      * current world population

  • 6 hours

    No amount of weak old man outrage can put that genie back in the bottle.