• Headline within the decade:

    Study says AI in schools may be doing more harm than good

    Because why would removing all creative and high paying proletariat jobs leaving only the worst and lowest paying ones, offloading all critical thought to shitty machines based in drought stricken areas that are destroying water availability, and eliminating online discourse, ever possibly backfire for the proletariat.

      • doesn’t stop them from giving a fuck though.

        my wife was at a school where no one in her grade used the llms. like, they already had established curriculum. they didn’t need to. she moved last year. now her principal uses claude to read and respond to all her emails. who knows what else. it’s obvious and infuriating. the whole damn school is struggling because of it. i want to tell the principal “you know, the district hired you, not the openAI. keep using the AIs and the district will wonder why they hired you” but it would cost my wife her job come pink slip time.

        so it really depends on the district and the school.

        • I wish there were more teachers like your wife. I also wish I could afford to become a teacher myself, but could never afford the pay cut.

          • it was a pay raise for us. my wife was a school district interpreter. they make about half what teachers do

  • 8 hours

    I’ve been interviewing software engineers for many years, and this was the first year the “AI natives” started graduating and applying for jobs.

    Never had such a high rate of people completely unable to write one line of code in a language that appears on their CV, it’s been about 50% in the last few months where I had to end the interview during the warmup question.

  • It’s important to have these studies, even though the result is predictable. People who want to move toward restricting AI in schools need something more than anecdotes to point to as justification.

  • When I was in year 12 of high school last year, some students attempted to use ChatGPT to write their practice exams for them. Mind you, these practice exams are the same as proper state mandated exams, where there are to be zero electronics used whatsoever unless it’s a disability aid, but the practice ones are also just that, to practice your skills, not to write it off as some worthless obligation.

    There were actually heaps more of these students who entirely used LLMs for their assignments, would be made to rewrite them because it’s AI written, then proceed to have ChatGPT write it again and pass it through a ‘humaniser’ which just made it unreadable. It’s alarming that these people are willing to stop using their mind at all just because some service from half way across the world wrote an essay better than they could before.

    • 7 hours

      Off topic, but it’s kinda cool to know younger folks are on the Feddiverse! Thought lemmy was just a bunch of old people like me haha

  • My grade 4 teacher let us cheat on multiplication tables which still has me screwed up for doing multiplication and division in my head

  • The way I see it, AI is just another log on the fire, although it is indeed a big log. The use of laptops and the prevalence of smartphones all damaged kids’ attention spans, then came the advent of short form content which further degraded their ability to stay focused and now we have AI slop summarizing what we see with our own eyes and taking agency away from their very brains. Somewhere along the line we convinced ourselves that more tech is good for education, and I think that needs to be rethought. We need to get kids back to reading and writing the old school way. There’s neuropsychological benefits to it that you just don’t get from typing or scrolling on computers. And this problem exists even outside of the classroom or kids. It’s a problem with all generations. I’m noticing just as much mental decline in older populations as younger ones.

  • You mean the computer program that removes the critical thinking aspect of school instruction is having detrimental effects on americas children and their excecutive functions? Say it ain’t so.

    • 15 hours

      Now now, there is no real proof that getting something or someone else to do things for you would stop you from learning how to do it!!

      Look at me, I got someone to pass my driving test and I’ve only had 22 accidents this year. Way down on last year!!

  • 20 hours

    It’s as if some notable proportion of humanity suddenly switched to eating nothing but vaguely food-shaped plastic, then a study concluded that that might have negative effects nutritionally.

    No shit?

    • 12 hours

      Didn’t even have to type it out you took care of it already.

  • “May”

    We already have studies outside of AI on how bad not doing the critical thinking for oneself is. It is literally impossible for this to not be detrimental.

    • 9 hours

      We already have studies outside of AI on how bad not doing the critical thinking for oneself is.

      Yup, we built an entire country for that study, it’s turning 250 and does not compute all too well.