- himmyguap@lemmy.worldEnglish45 minutes
You should only be a Starlink customer if you have no other feasible choice.
14 minutesSending money to a clown and NOT expecting a fucking circus, are we?
- 87Six@lemmy.zipEnglish24 minutes
This is sooo on cue, right as my AI loving IT colleagues are talking about getting starlink, only to have a backup internet connection in case of an outage.
We’ve noticed that our service no longer works properly, so we’re going to charge you more for it.
- flop_leash_973@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
“I can complain about Starlink raising their prices, but it’s the only genuine option we have,” former Nebraska state senator and Republican Julie Slama told the Washington Post last month. “Once they have rural customers on their service with no meaningful alternatives, they’re free to raise prices at will.”
Should we pull up the record and see who voted to allow that to happen in Nebraska while on the subject?
“We only have the option to use this hyper expensive private satellite service… because we spent all of the wired rollout grants/funding on bullshit.”
- 1 hour
because we spent all of the wired rollout grants/funding on bullshit.
Oh, it’s worse than that. The grant money was the wrong party color, so it had to be disposed of rather than lead to a positive outcome.
- Crozekiel@lemmy.zipEnglish5 hours
“I can complain about Starlink raising their prices, but it’s the only genuine option we have,” former Nebraska state senator and Republican Julie Slama told the Washington Post last month. “Once they have rural customers on their service with no meaningful alternatives, they’re free to raise prices at will.”
Yes, that is what everyone has been warning about for years and why we want the communication monopolies torn down… Fucking leopards running loose out here eating faces and they still just kinda shrug and go “wish there was an alternative to letting all the leopards run free eating our faces”.
- JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
To be fair, if you’ve ever had to use HughesNet, a leopard eating your face is a welcome change of pace.
- ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish23 minutes
Goddamn HughesNet. I had vehicle dealerships on that fucking piece of shit for their parts system and payroll. What a horrible service, for thousands of dollars a month.
The country that invented the internet… has the worst internet infrastructure in the developed world. Worse than some developing countries too. Astonishing.
No, we in Germany are almost as bad for almost those prices.
That’s more astonishing to me.- curbstickle_lw@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
Is it really??
I used to be jealous of some friends with their 10mbit symmetric lines while I was getting a whopping 4mbps (down only) on cable. (Obviously… not recent).
While most around us (Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands for example) have either 10gbit fiber amd or cheap internet, Germany meanwhile has much DSl or coax commections. Fiber is getting popular and is subsidized heavily (you basically receive it for free to the house when signing a contract for some years) a good chunk of seniority are refusing it with “Well, DSL was already enough for me. I don’t need this new fangled stuff. And it costs 75-100% thab my current contract for more unneeded bandwidth. Nah, I’ll pass on the offer”.
Meanwhile the grandson in 30 years will be very “thankful” for a house in a good condition and having to order a telecom contractor to connect the house to fibre network for 10k €. Just because granny was (not unjustified) a bit cheap.
And this analogy can be expanded to the highest of governments in Germany.
Old rich people, disconnected from reality, ruling over the commoners and deciding their fates.
Just recently our local newspaper showed an example of it.
A divorced/widowed father with a grods income of 5000€ would receive more state child support than an equal family with an income of 3500€.Just why…
Quote from the paper (feel free to use a translator of choice)
Das Finanzministerium nannte Beispiele. Demnach soll beispielsweise ein Paar aus Pflegekraft und Busfahrer mit je 2.800 Euro brutto und zwei Kindern 2028 eine Entlastung von rund 632 Euro im Jahr bekommen. Ein Paar aus Erzieher und Elektrikerin mit je 3.200 Euro brutto und zwei Kindern bekommt rund 642 Euro mehr.
Ein Paar aus Lehrerin und Ingenieur mit je 5.000 Euro brutto und zwei Kindern kann mit rund 678 Euro mehr rechnen. Eine alleinerziehende Pflegekraft mit 2.800 Euro brutto und zwei Kindern soll mit rund 468 Euro entlastet werden, eine alleinerziehende Erzieherin mit 3.200 Euro brutto und zwei Kinder mit rund 471 Euro und ein alleinerziehender Lehrer mit 5.000 Euro brutto und zwei Kindern mit rund 496 Euro.(I really hope I understood the article correctly and not making a fool out of myself. But the idiocracy should be enough to see where it’s generally going here in Germany)
- green_link@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
the US didn’t invent the internet. yes the US made ARPNET, which is the underlying functions that the internet was built upon. but the internet that we know today wasn’t created in the US, the WORLD wide web was created in Switzerland in 1989 by Sir Tim Berners-Lee while working at CERN (the European Organization for Nuclear Research). the world wide web, or the internet, uses a lot of the same protocols that ARPNET created. but ARPNET is not and was not world wide until Sir Tim used the same protocols to allow regular people to traverse ARPNET from around the world. the US built the underlying tech, but Sir Tim Berners-Lee and CERN built the internet on top.
- phutatorius@lemmy.zipEnglish2 hours
The web is a layer on top of the internet. They’re not the same thing.
- Jankatarch@lemmy.worldEnglish10 hours
How could someone who knows all about computers and networking not predict the logistics problems for such projects? /s
- bitjunkie@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
The world’s first trillionaire doesn’t get to call anyone else greedy.
- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish9 hours
That tweet is almost impressively stupid.
What the fuck does the download size of Wikipedia have to do with anything?
I can also fit some of the largest LLMs on my phone. Where is all that AI investment going to???
- ddplf@szmer.infoEnglish10 hours
I just can’t imagine having such excessive wealth and not saying “eh, whatever” when someone tells me I’m losing money on some internet fees.
You fucker, you could make the world at least a tiny bit better for billions of people at virtually no expense to you, but you just keep playing your stupid fucking rich manchildren games with your billionaire parasite buddies.
Keep grinding bro, maybe this way you’ll get used to the feeling of having your bones crushed in the grinder.
- SalamiDommie@lemmus.orgEnglish2 hours
It isn’t just the company leader. It is the brigade of product managers, pricing accountants and more that are involved in these types of corporate consensus decisions.
There is a fleet of people who see their bonuses, commissions, and rev share increasing.
Greed is contagious.
How else you get to inflate the stock price?
You got to get the returns on it.- bitjunkie@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
You don’t get that wealthy in the first place by not gobbling up every fucking penny you have a chance to. You think he’s just going to take the dub and stop?
It makes more sense when you realize his wealth is all smoke and mirrors based on a shared lie.
- Hozerkiller@lemmy.caEnglish10 hours
It’s not evem really losing money it’s inventing in the infrastructure youre using to make money.
- ddplf@szmer.infoEnglish6 hours
I know, he’s better than me by a factor of his net worth divided by my net worth. So around, what, 100 millions times?
- ILikeBoobies@lemmy.caEnglish4 hours
Not better, just a hoarder.
It’s why there are no good rich people.
- MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish18 hours
I have a neighbor who has access to 1gb cable and 1gb fiber from two ISP’s. Both have high data caps. Instead he is rocking the starlink and I can’t for the life of me figure out how he thinks that shit is somehow better than a hard link.
- 18 hours
I don’t run starlink, but I run Starry (fixed point wireless) when AT&T and Spectrum are available because:
- I do networking for a living, including wireless (or technically my coworkers do). I know how this thing works and what it’s limitations are
- I live in an area where it almost never rains, so little to no attenuation
- AT&T is on my banlist after shutting down my account for migrating to a 5G phone not on their approved list. Customer service didn’t even let me transfer the sim back to the old 4G phone. The account termination was immediate. I ended up convincing customer service that I needed my phone number for emergency contact, and immediately transferred the number elsewhere upon it being restored.
- Spectrum routing is shit
- Wireless can be as good (or even better) than wired in ideal conditions (see 1), my current 1Gbps plan also only costs $20/month.
- MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
Starlink and your short hall wireless solution are not really in the same ball park. I’m sorry for your problems with ATandFee. I use them for 1gb fiber. It hasn’t dropped once in the nine months or so I’ve had it. I had cable internet for 14 years before that. For ten of those years I was the sysadmin for the company. It was a local Four city cable company that finally sold out to a larger operation. We maintained a really high availability with most outages being upstream of our connections. We helped maintain several wireless bridges for commercial companies who were outside our service area and in heavy rain or even fog the signal would drop on a ten mile shot. The 60ghz short hall links also would also suffer from interference from weather on occasion… No wireless connection is as stable as a fiber link. None of them and they never can be.
- 3 hours
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I agree LEO Sat is different from 60GHz. But the detrimental effects of wireless is completely overblown. People running into issues should just run a signal test first to make sure it’s not their setup that’s the problem.
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There is no such thing as weather in SoCal (other than that one week of continuous rain each year).
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If you are just looking at 4 9s or 3 9s latency while the link is not saturated, it’s fine for general use (assuming my first bullet point holds). It’s not like I’m running aws off of my home network.
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Even in the rain, the latency is mostly fine. It’s usually just the minute it starts raining that the latency goes through the roof. My assumption is that it’s sampling and adjusting the modulation/coding scheme.
- MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
Let me tell you a little story about a 2008 Chevy truck. Around 2018 we had daily interference with our satellite receivers. It was a ongoing problem and we couldn’t find anything wrong. We changed out LNB’s and even the receivers. Ran temporary cable replacements on the ground. Finally someone noticed out outdoor wifi was going down at the same time as our other problems. We fired of a spectrum analyzer hooked to a tuned 5ghz dipole and nothing out of the ordinary. The next morning our CEO was calling cause fox news went out in the middle of his daily indoctrination and he was getting calls from his assholes buddies he golfed with were not getting their fix of manufactured outrage. We go to the headend and sure enough its out and the spectrum analyzer was showing a massive signal wider than the analyzer could display at once.
We of course were dealing with the problem and didn’t notice the twenty year old in one of our old trucks loading up what he needed to bury some drops that day. We also didn’t notice as soon as he drove off that everything started working again. After a few minutes of getting our ass chewed when the CEO called and wanted to know what we did and we had done nothing, our operations guy called the kid in the chevy back for something unrelated. As soon as he drove up everything went tits up again and it dawned on us all it was that truck. We switched him to a different vehicle and parked that one. After replacing a number of parts the problem went away on the truck.
It doesn’t matter if its the weather or if it exists in you corner of the world. It can be anything cratering your signal. I’ve seen old lighting ballast interfere and all manner of electrical appliances. I know you can’t be convinced because it hasn’t happened to you yet but wireless is a poor poor substitute for a hard link.
- 41 minutes
I’ve mentioned plenty of times under ideal conditions. If the condition is as you say (where there is known massive interference) I’d say that’s a good indicator to either 1. figure out what the interference is and whether it’s possible to mitigate it or 2. Switch to a hard link. This is very much the right tool for the right place problem.
For a majority of users wireless is definitely sufficient and that they can tolerate a reasonable amount of disconnects/drops/latency spikes. I’m not saying for every scenario wireless is a good substitute, but it can definitely handle certain scenarios good enough for home users for a fraction of the cost.
Besides, if I’m not having any major sources of interference now but somehow that develops later, that’s no different than getting a congested link at peek hours, or a faulty switch somewhere along the path 2 years down the line. It’s just another form of network disruption, those can develop in the same way in hard links.
Side note: I’ve done work over ssh and webapps with a constant 200-500ms latency and periodic disconnects for prolonged (months) periods of time. It is absolutely usable though a bit slow. I’ve even played PvP in MMOs (SWTOR, ESO) with those network stats back in the day and still managed to do well enough. People overestimate the quality of Internet service they need all the time.
- MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish18 minutes
Under ideal conditions or any conditions a wireless connection can never equal a hard link. End of story. You keep trying to convince me what you said had merit when Its clear I don’t think it does. Unless you live in a dessert you are exposed to constant interference including congestion brought about by simply sharing that single link aka the wireless spectrum you operate at with everyone else nearby. Whereas If you have a fiber link back to the switch and the line isn’t oversold you wont have congestion problem on your last mile. The last mile of your connection is shared with everyone whereas mine currently isn’t being shared with anyone or more to the point I get what I pay for with little worry someone is gonna install a shitty appliance and start knocking my internet out.
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- kuiskaaja@lemmy.mlEnglish4 hours
telecom operators in america can terminate your service if you use the wrong phone? wtf?
- 3 hours
They were checking against a whitelist of IMEIs to force people to migrate to 5G phones. While my new phone was 5G, it was acquired internationally and thus not on the whitelist. So as soon as it got on the network, the line got terminated.
- grandma@sh.itjust.worksEnglish21 hours
America will do anything except lay some fucking cable to provide internet to the ruroids.
- JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
Including paying companies specifically to lay that cable then never forcing them to actually do it.
- Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish19 hours
It’s crazy how behind US is on that. Americans say “yeah but US is bjg and mostly empty space” so is Asia and the rest of the world yet they are not defeated by a cable. It’s just cable laying - come on, we solved cable laying 50 years ago.
- poopkins@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
Same reason rural places in the US also haven’t discovered electricity yet. Oh, wait…
- chiliedogg@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
The US has a weird mix of big emplty spaces, really fucking expensive existing underground utilities and roadways, and private property (easements ain’t free) that makes new underground utilities stupidly expensive to run.
You have to buy big easements, negotiate utility contracts with local and state governments (to use the public right-of-way), dodge existing infrastructure while repairing what you break, and lay a fuckton of cable.
I work on the municipal side, and despite Google Fiber having a utility agreement with us for years they still have yet to lay a single foot of underground fiber because we won’t allow them to cut across roads that we just replaced in the last year, require their microtrenches to follow engineering standards, and they need to show existing underground water, gas, wastewater, and electrical services on their plans because they’re famous for just running a trench and making it the water district’s problem when they cut 7 public lines in an hour.
- 11 hours
How many big empty rural areas in Asia have fiber optics internet relative to big empty rural areas in the US? I thought starlink was heavily used by a lot of counties where people didnt have great access to internet?
- Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
Basic all rural areas have fiber/cell towers in Asia. Depends how you measure it but like 90% of populated Asia is connected and most of these stats are only being held back by Russia too.
- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish9 hours
How many big empty rural areas in Asia have fiber optics internet relative to big empty rural areas in the US?
I think China has done it for all of their rural villages (or maybe 98% it seems)
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201908/02/WS5d43f3c6a310cf3e355639b3.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1043951X22001110
- 21 hours
It does seem like that at times. But at least in Minnesota, the ruroids often seem to have better availability of fiber than the suburbanites and exurbanites. Possibly due to state broadband grants.
- Joelk111@lemmy.worldEnglish21 hours
This is how it was where I grew up in Washington State. We were not rural enough for our neighborhoods to qualify for grants, but not densely populated enough for it to be financially worth it to lay cable. I moved out in 2018, where the best options were still dial up or conventional sattelite.
I did discover that by voiding Cricket Wireless’ TOS you could use your BYOD as a hotspot with unlimited data and you’d just have to change sims/numbers every few months when they caught on. Of course now Starlink and T-Mobile home internet exist instead and hey, maybe they laid cable in the past 8 years, it’s possible.
- HugeNerd@lemmy.caEnglish20 hours
We have terrestrial radio and cables. What is the point of this complex space-based trash?
- 16 hours
The US taxpayers literally paid TWICE to privatized telecom companies (telco) to run fiber optic to the home, once in the 90s and again that last early “surge” of FTtH(fiber to the home aka “last mile”) when google started competing direct against telcos that would not get the lead out so they all buried a fuckton of (dark)fiber that they then kept artificially turned off and sat on their excess bandwidth instead of releasing that excess supply to the market to do bare standard minimum of using their good taxpayer funded fortune AND their privatized, ridiculously gained profits from the calculable increase of use in the information age YOY to offer it for reasonable prices. We could all be on $25 a month or less no cap 1GBps fiber in many places but again, the market forces at work at this point seem more actively just hostile to the rest of us on ground level here now. It’s a fascinating and also infuriating subject as an ex-IT person that helped build out this infrastructure that only could watch as it all remained dark. I was stuck in rural nowhere where we still had a small local telephone cop-op. They took that money, laid fiber and sat on their asses with it while they charged exorbitant rates for 56k dial up service while Netzero and the such took dome of that broadband at a time when independent local ISPs were cropping up, teaming modems and some fiber to offer a service with a saner price structure and this was all before data caps and bandwidth throttling was evenr a thing because all you needed was single rack in strateic locations , set the equipment up and basically forget it with the only fixed costs was your mainline fiber, equipment, colocation etc and such yet they STILL offered 100% FREE dial-up internet, co caps off those systems(of course subsidized by ad networks).
htps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_fibre
- phutatorius@lemmy.zipEnglish1 hour
“Market forces” in this case being oilgoplistic rent-seeking. Which, I suppose, is the result of market forces if you refuse to regulate that market to force competition.
- Einskjaldi@lemmy.worldEnglish18 hours
It’s the only high speed solution if you’re more than 30 miles away from the nearest town and you live completely surrounded by trees or hills. 4g internet is pretty good for home use and that covers most rural areas but that’s not large amounts of data usually. It’s good for a lot of edge cases like open ocean or really remote areas. And crucially it can do that with very low lag unlike any other traditional geosat space internet.
- Auli@lemmy.caEnglish10 hours
Yes but people in cities getting it makes no sense. Unless your a neither town.
- Einskjaldi@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
It’s more useful as a backup in case your internet goes down, for things that need 1 or 2 backups for high connectivity uptime
- 19 hours
Go to hyperspace, bro. That’s where Jesus and Joseph Smith transcended to. Enlightenment is a process of becoming an independent phenomenon. God is an independent phenomenon; it created itself. The Alpha is the Omega; the restuarant at the end of the universe is the transcendental particle that can be in multiple…stepmoms? Tf you saying God? Yea, I got a big stepmommy fetish, tf is your point of bringing it up now? No I don’t toe? Tf is toe for? I’ll put my big toe in your pussy and be happy to call you about it in the morning so you come to church with me. This is why God made me a Mormon Occultist, because ain’t nothing on this world for me but sin, and I did but didn’t to learn defilement as the Buddhists call the möbiation of entanglement, as I call the phenomena. But space bro? Space doesn’t exist bro. Get over yourself or Jesus’s dad is gunna fuck your ass up.
- 18 hours
I am valid, that is for sure. At least my parking is. I am quite invalid in certain respects. Retarded, too, and that’s my peoples’ word and I will say it in praise of our lord. You ever smoke a ham sandwich? I don’t recommend it.
- phutatorius@lemmy.zipEnglish1 hour
I don’t recommend it.
Yeah, it ain’t kosher. 2 out of 3 Abrahamic religions say don’t do that, though I am of the view that any belief system that bans carnitas cannot be the whole truth.
- 4 hours
I told my ROTC cadre that my nonexistent sister got me pregnant because I judged my father’s wrath more of a threat than the US military, and then kept up faking schizophrenia for years cuz I thought I was under investigation. I was not, as I gave the money back.
I am retarded. This is how I identify as someone that developed schizoaffective disorder because I was constantly paranoid and this reconditioned my brain. You don’t get to tell me how I identify, you prejudiced person. And if you do think get to dictate what words I can use, I’ll start telling you you can’t say the word love cuz you clearly can’t do that to anyone but yourself, you virtue-signaling narcissistic twad.
- HugeNerd@lemmy.caEnglish10 hours
Nothing to do with religion, a severe mental illness afflicting many, is funny.
