• ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    The irony being that despite the ironclad argument you wrote, they’ll still irrationally judge fat people for their weight.

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      23 hours ago

      It’s iron clad in the literal sense that cladding something clad with iron still is heavily susceptible to corrosion.

      At the end of the day being fat is a choice, you can have a metabolic disorder that causes you to gain weight if you eat 1/8th the calories of the average person but you are still choosing to eat more than you need. You can have abnormal signaling pathways that make you feel hungry or even lightheaded that causes you to overeat but again you are choosing to give in to a feeling that you know is bad for you. You can be disabled/poor and struggle to prepare food so you only eat cheap unhealthy food but you are still choosing to eat more of it than you need. Making fun of people for being fat might not help them lose weight but it’s not like you are making fun of a person because of something they can’t change like their race, sexual orientation, or even height, it is something that they can 100% change and the picture isn’t of someone whose 10-20 pounds overweight but instead well over 100lbs more than they should be.

      It might be an unpopular opinion but a person should feel bad when they are that glutinous that they have consumed 500k calories above their required weight

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        14 hours ago

        The parent comment provided tons of scientific research providing evidence towards the fact that shame doesn’t motivate weight loss and that epigenetic factors play a key difference in obesity. You laid out a few theoreticals to explain why actually, a fat person I made up in my mind doesn’t have to be fat because they can just stop eating.

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          6 hours ago

          I acknowledged that shame doesn’t help with weight loss and that legitimate medical conditions can cause you to gain weight. But at the end of the day we have something called the conservation of energy if you like I can drop a link explaining it but if a person doesn’t consume energy then the energy level in their body can’t go up. Fat is a form of stored chemical energy. Therefore the single way that people end up fat is overconsumption of calories.

          I explained several of the medical reasons why a person might be more likely to over consume calories even though many of them are very rare but if you can find a single reliable source that shows a person consuming less calories than they burn and managing sustained weight gain (ignoring water weight transients) I will backtrack on everything I said and acknowledge I am wrong