This app…works in almost exactly the same way as Signal, except that it also archives copies of all the messages passing through it, shattering all of its security guarantees.
Later in the article, it talks specifically about the server-side archives being stored in plain text. That’s why the hacker was able to access messages. This isn’t about the local copies on phones.
This is now the third post in the last 24 hours where I stumble into a needlessly long thread because this user is completely obtuse and can’t handle being wrong or a different opinion.
The passphrase or the unencrypted database are still open in memory. Though that is, of course, a more complicated attack but they could simply read it through the app itself.
You can set it to wipe them from memory on different conditions, including instantly if youre that paranoid, sure its still possible. Its an optional feature most people wont use, but its pretty well thought out.
Signal uses end-to-end encryption (E2EE). The only copies of messages are on the sender’s and recipient’s devices.
https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007320391-Is-it-private-Can-I-trust-it#%3A~%3Atext=Signal+conversations+are+always+end%2C%2C+every+call%2C+every+time.
Copies of messages are also known as archives.
Signal does not archive messages on server side
They weren’t talking about the server:
Later in the article, it talks specifically about the server-side archives being stored in plain text. That’s why the hacker was able to access messages. This isn’t about the local copies on phones.
Yeah I didn’t read past the misinformation
Kinda seems like you’re the misinformation.
You’re confused, I am not the author of this article. I did not write the statement above, just copied and pasted it here.
I’m not confused, you’re intentionally misreading what’s happening for some reason.
“Passing through it” pretty clearly refers to the server as that’s what was hacked into and had plain text archives.
You’re hyper fixating on the fact that the article says “the app” when referring to both the phone and server pieces to try and argue… something.
Maybe you should start reading up on stuff you don’t know about before adding nonsense to internet threads.
This is now the third post in the last 24 hours where I stumble into a needlessly long thread because this user is completely obtuse and can’t handle being wrong or a different opinion.
Don’t know what you mean. I didn’t add any “nonsense”. Just a direct quote from the article in question.
Totally /s Can’t even read your own comments.
It’s why Molly has local database encryption.
That doesn’t really do anything. Attackers need local access to the device to get the database itself. Chances are, they’ll get the key right with it.
Molly encrypts it using a passphrase instead of a locally stored key for exactly that reason.
The passphrase or the unencrypted database are still open in memory. Though that is, of course, a more complicated attack but they could simply read it through the app itself.
You can set it to wipe them from memory on different conditions, including instantly if youre that paranoid, sure its still possible. Its an optional feature most people wont use, but its pretty well thought out.
The only backup option I see for Signal is through Android, but it’s optional. There is no backup support for iOS or desktop.
https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007059752-Backup-and-Restore-Messages