• exu@feditown.comEnglish
    8 months

    Only the US is allowed to backdoor every company globally! /s

    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8 months

      There is no backdoor in Apple’s encryption. That’s the reason the US and UK governments have prosecuted Apple repeatedly. They can obtain iCloud data with a warrant, but are repeatedly pressing for real-time surveillance. The UK banned encryption without a backdoor, so Apple turned off encryption rather than compromising their standard.

      • kautau@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8 months

        The funny thing is, advanced data protection was optional, and not on by default. Apple just stopped offering it in the UK

        https://support.apple.com/en-us/108756

        When it’s enabled, they can’t access iCloud data at all, even with a warrant due to the fact it’s E2E with keys they don’t control. That’s what the UK got really mad about. But Apple shut the whole feature down for the UK in response to the backdoor ask.

        It’s not different from the UK banning signal because it’s E2E encrypted and they can’t access it.

        They’re likely only backing down now because of consumer/media backlash

        • Vinstaal0@feddit.nlEnglish
          8 months

          Apple would need to supply the data if they had the encryption key right? So can we assume that even Apple cannot see the encrypted data?

          • kautau@lemmy.worldEnglish
            8 months

            Correct, standard iCloud data is accessible with a warrant. But the UK wanted their own backdoor so they have constant access without a warrant.

            But with advanced data protection, Apple can’t provide the data because they don’t have the encryption keys, regardless of a warrant.

            Important to note iMessage is always E2E encrypted though, so iMessages cannot be accessed even with a warrant. Advanced data protection just expands that to all iCloud data

            • Vinstaal0@feddit.nlEnglish
              8 months

              Okay interesting, thank you for the info.

              Who even uses iMessage these days? Pretty sure I turned it off completely because it was messing with the 5 SMS I send in a year …

          • szymon@programming.devEnglish
            8 months

            Snowden, historical documents about CIA, info from Chinese and Russian intelligence

            • xthexder@l.sw0.comEnglish
              8 months

              I didn’t think any of that was backdoors. That was the government snooping on unencrypted communications.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8 months

        These things you write, they are not in any way substantiation of the claim that Apple doesn’t make backdoors.

    • Obinice@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8 months

      Feck you too, I guess. If that’s how you want to behave.

      I could understand you being unhappy with our government, but just blanket swearing at all 68 million of us is a dick move.