Windows Recall remains controversial a year after its announcement. Now, the Brave browser has taken new measures to "protect" users from the feature.
  • zewm@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8 months

    Literally nothing will get me to use this crypto scam of a browser.

    • hperrin@lemmy.caEnglish
      8 months

      That’s not even the worst thing about him. He also invented JavaScript.

    • Quibblekrust@thelemmy.clubEnglish
      8 months

      He invented JavaScript, so definitely don’t use that either. For real. JavaScript sucks.

      • bier@feddit.nlEnglish
        8 months

        I used to hate JS but barley had used it. Now I use it on a daily base and hate it even more.

    • szymon@programming.devEnglish
      8 months

      He could be next husband of Ivanka Trump - I don’t care

      If he provide good service for me - browser which fits my needs. I would even send him money every day

      • Kris@slrpnk.netEnglish
        8 months

        That’s the logic of as long as it benefits ME I don’t care and I support them no matter what they do. This same logic has been applied to all the shitty things done in history like slavery, war and so forth, and the reason the world is the way it is.

        • mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          8 months

          Do you know all the personal histories of all the people related to all the services you use?

          • Kris@slrpnk.netEnglish
            8 months

            Of course that’s not possible, the issue here is being aware and not caring and in some cases supporting it for convenience and selfishness.

      • OutlierBlue@lemmy.caEnglish
        8 months

        “I’ll support fascism as long as it’s convenient for me”

          • OutlierBlue@lemmy.caEnglish
            8 months

            If fascism was a passive philosophy that didn’t hurt anyone then you might have a point. But as you can see recently it’s extremely dangerous and ruins lives.

            You may not want to mingle with politics, but it doesn’t have the same view.

            • Chulk@lemmy.mlEnglish
              8 months

              Yep, everything is politics whether we like it or not.

  • Geodad@lemmy.worlddeleted by creatorEnglish
    8 months

    Linux blocks that “feature” too…

    • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      8 months

      What feature? Recall?? That’s Windows 11-specific and hasn’t even launched yet??

      • Syltti@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8 months

        The joke is that Linux blocks this by not doing it at all. Which is why people should switch to Linux. Which is a good idea. But that’s up to the people.

  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    8 months

    Brave browser blocks Windows feature that takes screenshots of everything you do on your PC

    As does Linux.

    • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      8 months

      OK, you need to explain to me how tf does Linux block something that works only on Windows.

  • SpaceScotsman@startrek.websiteEnglish
    8 months

    They haven’t blocked the windows feature, they’re using DRM to interfere with it. Microsoft could easily change how the DRM works any time they want, rendering all these hacks useless.

    • thevoidzero@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8 months

      Exactly, how do you even fight with the OS except just making it bit hard for them lol. You have to tell the OS what pixels to put in the screen, there’s literally no way you can hide things from the OS if they want to know.

    • moe90@feddit.nlEnglish
      8 months

      then people can complained it on Brave Github or their official forum and it will be fixed by their team

  • Tattorack@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8 months

    The better option would be to not use spyware as an operating system.

      • Fijxu@programming.devEnglish
        8 months

        I don’t think taking screenshots of everything you do every few seconds is telemetry.

        • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          8 months

          It’s not, but it’s also not spyware - it’s local, encrypted, AND optional.

            • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
              8 months

              So you’re saying you haven’t bothered to read about Recall at all, you just assumed it’s going to be enabled by default?

          • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.caEnglish
            8 months

            I believe they are talking about Windows, an OS that is spyware and no one should use

            An example of Windows being spyware not standard telemetry is the Recall feature. A feature that doesn’t just tell you how the OS is used but actually takes screenshots every few seconds

            • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
              8 months

              Windows, an OS that is spyware and no one should use

              Of, ffs, grow up.

              An example of Windows being spyware not standard telemetry is the Recall feature. A feature that doesn’t just tell you how the OS is used but actually takes screenshots every few seconds

              You have no clue what you’re talking about, do you?

              Recall only works on devices with an NPU. Do you know why? Because it runs locally. It’s got NOTHING to do with telemetry, because it does NOT send data to Microsoft.

              • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.caEnglish
                8 months

                Recall only works on devices with an NPU. Do you know why? Because it runs locally.

                Show code or gtfo

        • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          8 months

          I don’t know, maybe because I understand the definition of “spyware” and “telemetry”?

          • ThirdConsul@lemmy.mlEnglish
            8 months

            Well, semantically yes, not all telemetry is spyware. However regarding Windows telemetry it’s indistinguishable from spyware - you have no idea nor control over the data gathered, measured and processed.

            The crux is that Windows telemetry is opt out, opting out can’t be done during installation, and historically opting out wasn’t sticky. Additionally some Windows telemetry is still being sent despite opting out.

            That makes Windows telemetry fulfill all spyware criteria.

            • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
              8 months

              However regarding Windows telemetry it’s indistinguishable from spyware - you have no idea nor control over the data gathered, measured and processed

              Ah, so you’re another one of those fear-mongers?

              Here’s the Required Diagnostic Events Fields (required telemetry) documentation.

              Keeping in mind that it’s anonymous - which parts of this are you so vehemently against sending to Microsoft?

              That makes Windows telemetry fulfill all spyware criteria.

              The shittiest spyware in history, I guess, considering it’s all anonymous…

  • blobchoice@feddit.ukEnglish
    8 months

    Unfortunately that would involve using the Brave browser, which is an antifeature in itself.

      • Electricd@lemmybefree.netEnglish
        8 months

        They shit on it because just like Mozilla, they made some shit decision by making some shady partnerships, and because the CEO is transphobic/homophobic/can’t remember

        Apart from the usual bullshit and antifeatures it has, it’s still a great browser choice, just like Firefox

        • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          8 months

          “Just like Mozilla”.

          Let’s compare.

          Mozilla: installed a closed-source plugin once, and then apologised for it.

          Brave CEO: actively supports homophobic organisations, donates money to them, injects affiliate links to stores, whenever given a microphone will say something bigoted and homophobic.

          Yeah, it’s totally the same exact issue with both browsers!

          • Electricd@lemmybefree.netEnglish
            8 months

            Brave: injected affiliate links once, then apologised for it too. Developped a search engine to be less dependent on big companies

            Mozilla is spending money like crazy, just like Wikipedia, has little to no democratic system which makes people fork the stuff they make, and prefer to use the money from donation to buy trips all over the world to educate about privacy and shit while they proceed to keep adding more telemetry and BS in firefox

            They also make it close to impossible to install plugins outside their plugins website, which I’ve heard has some strict rules and take a lot of time to approve stuff. Closed garden bullshit again

  • flop_leash_973@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8 months

    Let me know when it is discovered that they in fact replaced MS Recall with their own version that was scraping your data in yet another sketchy attempt to make money.

    • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
      8 months

      For now it is opt-in. It’s unlikely to remain that way.

    • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8 months

      For an update or two, at least. Windows features tend to get turned back on after updates quite frequently.