• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
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    12 days ago

    How could one guy get paid more than the whole company ever made?

    Because that $1trillion pay packet is contingent on the value of Tesla going to like $5tril, which would make it the biggest company in the history of the world. It would make every shareholder insanely rich.

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      12 days ago

      But that’s all bubble. Tesla isn’t selling even enough cars to justify its current valuation, and sales are slowing down. The current valuation of Tesla is based entirely on hype, and has been for years. For ever, really, but in the early years it could be justified because it was the fastest growing car company ever, and EVs were new and hot. Now everybody is building EVs, and more than Tesla.

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        10 days ago

        Is this your first time reading about the stock market? It’s all about “hype” and “bubbles”.

        Teslas are still the gold standard of EVs. They’re not the cheapest, but they’re what everyone wants.

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          10 days ago

          Why would this be my first time reading about the stock market? Do you think this is the first bubble?

          Yes, hype and bubbles are common on the stock market, that’s not all it is, and that doesn’t make them okay. The dot-com bubble led to a crash. Other bubbles led to crashes. This one will too. How long that will take? That depends on the number of greater fools, or on how long they can keep inflating this with financial trickery.

          Teslas are still the gold standard of EVs. They’re not the cheapest, but they’re what everyone wants.

          That was years ago. Tesla sales are dropping in many places, while other the other EV sales are growing. Tesla has peaked, there’s no sign of anything that will reverse it. And their sales have never justified their stock value.

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            5 hours ago

            Growing sales of cheaper Chinese EVs don’t change what I said. Teslas are the gold standard that people want, but not everyone can afford or justify the purchase price. A corolla isn’t a better car than a Lamborghini just because it sells more.

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              4 hours ago

              There’s more to a car than speed, and Teslas aren’t Lamborghinis. They were exciting when they were new, but they’ve always had quality issues. Toyota produces more reliable cars. And more cars. There’s no perspective from which Tesla’s valuation makes sense.

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                2 hours ago

                Tesla have their valuation because that’s what the market decides they’re worth based on past performance, future predictions, leadership, etc. That’s all there is to it. You think they’re overvalued because you hate their CEO and “founder”. While I don’t agree with the stock market, they’re far more correct than you are. Things are worth what people will pay.

                Teslas are still the flagship EV brand. Not being the highest selling doesn’t change that. Did you not understand the Corolla/Lamborghini example?

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                  26 minutes ago

                  this is an extremely surface level understanding, the stock markets value tesla highly because of a history of government subsidies and protections as well as musks perceived closeness to the white house because of how much he paid into the presidency. This has been shown directly through stock analysis around certain events such as the results of the recent american presidency election which led to the stock of tesla drastically increasing overnight. and surging ever since, with notable drops during times when he feuded with trump more openly, losing a 150 bn dollar valuation over just a couple of days at the time of june 5th. And they only started to marginally improve after musk apologized.