Breakthrough technology, never seen before in the mobile market. Apple, like always, surprises the word with the latest never seen before tech that will become mainstream in the near future, thanks to apple and its affordable pricing for everyday customers.
Now just slap that 2,5-3k RRP on the device and let it sell out in.
They’ve also become really, really good at outsourcing R&D to other companies. This lets them outsource the expense of trial and error, and swoop down with a mature product once everyone else has paid for it.
15 years ago they famously patented, and then leaked that they were working on a fingerprint reader authentication method, and then they watched the Android manufacturers bend over backwards to implement it so they could say they did it “first.” In those early days of smartphones, being first to implement something and then claiming Apple copied it was a big deal for people who wanted to be first movers (today they are called “techbros”). Motorola Mobility ate the cost of R&D, was never able to recoup the costs, and ended up being sold to Google for their patent portfolio. By the time Apple released Touch ID two and a half years later, Motorola Mobility was a shell of itself, and ended up being sold a second time to Lenovo.
Foldable phones have been a thing for a while, and Apple just sat back and took notes on what everyone else was doing. Surface Duo killed Microsoft’s last attempt at a mobile device. Now it’s a relatively mature market (we have tri-fold phones for two years now and tablets that fold into a laptop with a bluetooth keyboard) and now Apple will swoop in and bring the rest of the market.
The money isn’t in being a first mover; it’s in making a reliable product that everyone can use. It shouldn’t be lost on anyone that Apple made a trillion dollars while OpenBSD (upstream for a lot of Apple’s ecosystem) struggled to pay its light bills.
Generally true - but multitouch was a real innovation. I’m not familiar with other manufacturers perfecting touch interfaces AND design paradigms optimized for it.
There were decades of development of touch screen devices with UI paradigms designed explicitly for touch. Notwithstanding all of the Palm and Symbian and Windows CE devices, I feel like I shouldn’t have to point out that the Nintendo DS came out in 2004, three years before the iPhone.
It’s just that these were resistive screens and stylus based…
That headset is certainly my a strange device. It definetly has that Apple magic to it. Incredibly impressive to actually use. But at that price it needs to solve a problem. It needs to justify itself.
A MacBook is a laptop. It does laptop things.
An iPhone is a smartphone. It does smartphone things.
An Apple Watch…well, I use mine for quick notifications, smarthome interactions and mobile payments but most people buy it as a fashion accessory. It’s amazing this product line survived to maturity.
Then we get to the Vision Pro which does….what? It doesn’t solve a problem. It’s the most amazing thing to serve no purpose. Apple was figuring they would throw this device out there and someone else would figure out what to do with it. Obviously that didn’t happen.
The UI lead just left the company within the last couple of months. Reports are the staff is overjoyed at that news. A lot of turnover in their leadership this past year, actually. Feels like this may be a new chapter coming up for the company. Rumor is Tim Apple may retire next year.
I said usually. And all of those complaints were overblown or taken way out of context. Like the cable thing? A cheap-ass charging cable from
China catches an iPhone on fire, the headlines would read “iPhone catches on fire.” Any hardware manufacturer would be wise to block unlicensed chargers like that. But consider their hardware releases…
The issue with the second one was their failure to notify users about the throttling. It is a decent solution for an end of life battery to throttle the device to prevent crashes.
Yeah I have zero qualms with my phone running slower if it means it doesn’t randomly reboot. That was the whole reason why Apple implemented it in the first place.
I suggest checking out the recent episode of version history by the verge about the iPhone 4. Antennagate was extraordinarily overblown and didn’t result in dropped calls, it was almost an entirely UI based issue with the bar calculation algorithm. Jobs also never said you’re holding it wrong that is missattributed quote.
As for the slowing of phones it was necessary to preserve battery life and health though they should have told people about it. Very few people would take the trade off of significantly degraded battery life for a slightly higher clock speed.
As for the proprietary connection, when lightning was introduced it was miles ahead of the usb consortium in terms of speeds and features. If they hadn’t held on to it for so long I think people would be more fond toward it. But it was certainly better than micro b.
Breakthrough technology, never seen before in the mobile market. Apple, like always, surprises the word with the latest never seen before tech that will become mainstream in the near future, thanks to apple and its affordable pricing for everyday customers.
Now just slap that 2,5-3k RRP on the device and let it sell out in.
Apple’s entire history as an org has been as a fast follower, not a first mover.
The Apple Newton is a great example of why they avoid being a first mover.
They’ve also become really, really good at outsourcing R&D to other companies. This lets them outsource the expense of trial and error, and swoop down with a mature product once everyone else has paid for it.
15 years ago they famously patented, and then leaked that they were working on a fingerprint reader authentication method, and then they watched the Android manufacturers bend over backwards to implement it so they could say they did it “first.” In those early days of smartphones, being first to implement something and then claiming Apple copied it was a big deal for people who wanted to be first movers (today they are called “techbros”). Motorola Mobility ate the cost of R&D, was never able to recoup the costs, and ended up being sold to Google for their patent portfolio. By the time Apple released Touch ID two and a half years later, Motorola Mobility was a shell of itself, and ended up being sold a second time to Lenovo.
Foldable phones have been a thing for a while, and Apple just sat back and took notes on what everyone else was doing. Surface Duo killed Microsoft’s last attempt at a mobile device. Now it’s a relatively mature market (we have tri-fold phones for two years now and tablets that fold into a laptop with a bluetooth keyboard) and now Apple will swoop in and bring the rest of the market.
The money isn’t in being a first mover; it’s in making a reliable product that everyone can use. It shouldn’t be lost on anyone that Apple made a trillion dollars while OpenBSD (upstream for a lot of Apple’s ecosystem) struggled to pay its light bills.
Generally true - but multitouch was a real innovation. I’m not familiar with other manufacturers perfecting touch interfaces AND design paradigms optimized for it.
There were decades of development of touch screen devices with UI paradigms designed explicitly for touch. Notwithstanding all of the Palm and Symbian and Windows CE devices, I feel like I shouldn’t have to point out that the Nintendo DS came out in 2004, three years before the iPhone.
It’s just that these were resistive screens and stylus based…
Except for the LG Prada.
They will “swoop in” like they did with the vr headset, that was dead on arrival.
That headset is certainly my a strange device. It definetly has that Apple magic to it. Incredibly impressive to actually use. But at that price it needs to solve a problem. It needs to justify itself.
A MacBook is a laptop. It does laptop things. An iPhone is a smartphone. It does smartphone things. An Apple Watch…well, I use mine for quick notifications, smarthome interactions and mobile payments but most people buy it as a fashion accessory. It’s amazing this product line survived to maturity. Then we get to the Vision Pro which does….what? It doesn’t solve a problem. It’s the most amazing thing to serve no purpose. Apple was figuring they would throw this device out there and someone else would figure out what to do with it. Obviously that didn’t happen.
“fast” follower? Are we talking about the same apple who just released 2006’s windows Vista aero theme as a new design in 2025?
The UI lead just left the company within the last couple of months. Reports are the staff is overjoyed at that news. A lot of turnover in their leadership this past year, actually. Feels like this may be a new chapter coming up for the company. Rumor is Tim Apple may retire next year.
Oh that’s fun, maybe they will try innovation again
Apple usually prefers to do it right rather than do it first.
You’re holding it wrong
We’re slowing down your phone on purpose… for your own good
We have to use a proprietary cable to protect our users from their own stupidity
I said usually. And all of those complaints were overblown or taken way out of context. Like the cable thing? A cheap-ass charging cable from China catches an iPhone on fire, the headlines would read “iPhone catches on fire.” Any hardware manufacturer would be wise to block unlicensed chargers like that. But consider their hardware releases…
Smartphones prior to the iPhone sucked.
MP3 players prior to the iPod sucked.
Tablets prior to the iPad sucked.
Smart watches prior to the Apple Watch sucked.
The issue with the second one was their failure to notify users about the throttling. It is a decent solution for an end of life battery to throttle the device to prevent crashes.
Yeah I have zero qualms with my phone running slower if it means it doesn’t randomly reboot. That was the whole reason why Apple implemented it in the first place.
I suggest checking out the recent episode of version history by the verge about the iPhone 4. Antennagate was extraordinarily overblown and didn’t result in dropped calls, it was almost an entirely UI based issue with the bar calculation algorithm. Jobs also never said you’re holding it wrong that is missattributed quote.
As for the slowing of phones it was necessary to preserve battery life and health though they should have told people about it. Very few people would take the trade off of significantly degraded battery life for a slightly higher clock speed.
As for the proprietary connection, when lightning was introduced it was miles ahead of the usb consortium in terms of speeds and features. If they hadn’t held on to it for so long I think people would be more fond toward it. But it was certainly better than micro b.
You’re not going to be able to break through a lot of peeps Apple hate on Lemmy, it’s almost as strong as the Microsoft hate.
Apple is what we call “Sondermüll”.