Do you think it really doesn’t train on your data?
I’ve been using it and it looks good so far, I just ask simple questions and never let the context get too big.
It’s good that it doesn’t require login, just open and ask something.
I don’t trust DDG, really. I run LLAMA locally. It serves my purpose.
There is no such thing as “AI”.
But I appreciate the generated summaries of search results. Sometimes they miss the point of my search, but they’re often quicker than searching through the webpage results.
I don’t know why people get so mad about it.
Because of rampant hallucinations, yet people taking them as gospel. Not to mention the energy cost for no real benefit
It needs to PISS OFF.
It should be off by default. As it’s set up right now, DDG settings don’t keep on privacy respecting browsers due to cookies being cleared regularly. Since their AI is on by default, that means it regularly gets shoved in your face.
For you and whomever else needs to hear it, you can solve the second part by going to https://duckduckgo.com/settings and saving the bookmark with all the options included. Then you can clear all the cookies you want and it’ll always load the same settings.
If you’re using cookies. In general https://noai.duckduckgo.com/ is the way to go otherwise
I hate AI being shoved into everything. I’ve been using https://noai.duckduckgo.com/ and am very happy with it.
Is that an official noAI version of DDG?
Yes it is. No AI results by default.
I don’t want AI anywhere near my daily drivers. If I want to use AI it needs to be siloed and unable to access any of my data unless I explicitly feed something into it.
Good news: “AI” doesn’t actually exist.
True, but nowadays, and for foreseeable future, AI means what the tech bros mean by it.
Hijacking your comment to remind others of https://noai.duckduckgo.com/ The more that is used, the faster DDG may remove AI from the main page. (Hopes and dreams…)
I switched entirely after they renamed their app to AI. Hopefully that helps even more.
Neat, in IronFox, that is already one of the search providers to choose from to set as the default. I had to manually add it to KISS, bit it is working great
KISS settings > Search settings > Add web search provider
https://noai.duckduckgo.com/?q=%25sGreat idea! Thanks for showing how to do it!
👏 Thanks.
I’m talking about the duck.ai not the integrated AI on search results, I don’t use that one, I let it disabled.
I’m real sorry! Not to be a complete ass. But the sooner people stop using the “daily driver” phrase the better! Oceans of cringe. Please, please delete this from your vocab! Its like throwing up in the mouth every time I see this.
This is a ‘you’ problem
What would ypu suggest they use instead?
I’ve been using Duck.AI because you don’t need to sign in or anything. Works well
Don’t want it, don’t need it.
Everything you type in the chat box is sent to the LLM provider but they get Duck Duck Go’s IP instead of yours.
So if you type personal things its mostly just like typing them directly to ChatGPT. However, with duck.ai your IP, Browser info, Location (if shared), etc is seen by Duck Duck Go instead of OpenAI.
I don’t think DuckDuckGo is lying when they say that they don’t use your chats to train models. However, that leaves plenty for OpenAI and Duck Duck Go to do with your chats, like building shadow profiles.
I suggest that if you want to be anonymous to Duck Duck Go, then use duck.ai via vpn or tor. Always assume the content of your chat session is being logged by the LLM provider.
GenAI is cancer.
From ArsTechnica:
According to DuckDuckGo, chats on the service are anonymized, with metadata and IP address removed to prevent tracing back to individuals. The company states that chats are not used for AI model training, citing its privacy policy and terms of use.
“We have agreements in place with all model providers to ensure that any saved chats are completely deleted by the providers within 30 days,” says DuckDuckGo, “and that none of the chats made on our platform can be used to train or improve the models.”
So there is some trust involved, but I’m inclined to believe DDG.
It’s a frontend. Of course they don’t, it’s not their AI.
The GPT OSS can be self hosted tho.
I guess if you can trust ddg using ms search w/o sending information back, you can do the same with ai?
No thx.
If you are talking about free ai, the cost is your data.
Just use 4get. It’s a privacy focused proxy search engine that supports multiple backends. No telemetry, no tracking, no bloat.
Repository: https://git.lolcat.ca/lolcat/4get
I actually like the search overviews, they yap a lot less than Google and usually give the correct answer within the first sentence
It’s fairly bare bones in all honesty. It does sum up initial searches fairly well but beyond that you’re not going to get much, if anything, out of it. Asking it follow up questions regarding a search is more miss than hit.
It has provided me decent initial results when I’m searching for some random linux question/solution but clarifying or expanding on initial results is useless.
That has been my experience as well. I use it extensively for searches, not for chatting.
