• [deleted]@piefed.worldEnglish
        2 months

        American here, I hate ads and haven’t seen any on YouTube for years. Well, other than movie trailers and stuff I chose to watch intentionally.

        • OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2 months

          Same here. It’s jarring to use someone else’s device. AdGuard does a great job on my phone.

    • redlemace@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 months

      You guys get ads ?

      you guys go to YT ? I wonder how and why it’s still out there. They make it so obvious they don’t want people to watch video’s there

      • Art3mis@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 months

        I was part of a really annoying one recently that targeted vpn use but it seems to have stopped

    • Damarus@feddit.orgEnglish
      2 months

      Well currently they’re delaying the video start by the time it would have taken the ad to play. It’s still better than having to actually watch ads, but blockers are not in the best position right now.

      • Dagamant@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 months

        That’s what they say but not what I’m experiencing. Either way, blank screen is better than ads

      • athatet@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2 months

        I’m not watching ads so it’s doing exactly what I want it to thank you very much.

      • lost_faith@lemmy.caEnglish
        2 months

        What delay? click vid, yt asks if I want to know why my connection is slow, by the time I read that the vid plays. FF+UBO+Linux

      • Null User Object@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 months

        I’m not the person you’re responding to, but I’m running SmartTube on an Nvidia Shield here. Works amazing.

          • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zipEnglish
            2 months

            its still very capable, but best depends. iirc there are certain audio formats the shield doesnt support.

            i personally would love a new shield using ~switch 2 soc just so i can move emulation/lower end pc onto it.

              • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zipEnglish
                2 months

                I went to go look it up for my old setup, turns out its mainly for the older models, as the codecs are only supported on the newer revisions of the shield tv.

                though with the shield tv, one of the missing things that would be nice to have would be AV1 support (as Nvidia only supported AV1 starting with Ampere based gpus)

          • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2 months

            It’s so versatile. One of the last great products Nvidia came up with before shooting up AI crack.

      • Mac@mander.xyzEnglish
        2 months

        I have this thing called a DisplayPort cable. So yes, uBlock origin on my TV.

        Edit: I’m realizing this might be coming across really shitty, but i promise I’m just intending some tongue-in-cheek dry joking.

      • Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        2 months

        I mean there are ways, like pihole, but I like the simple option of a really long hdmi cable that I use to plug my computer into the TV, so I never have to use any of the shitty built in TV apps.

        • Decq@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2 months

          pihole hasn’t worked for years to block youtube ads, no?

          • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            2 months

            You’re correct. Pihole works at the DNS level. Since YouTube hosts their ads on the same servers that host their videos, blocking the ads with DNS would also block the videos. Which I guess it technically works to block YT ads, but that’s a little like saying “set a man on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life.”

            • Decq@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2 months

              I thought so too, but maybe I missed something new with Pihole/YT Ads.

          • Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            2 months

            Honestly, I’ve not used it, I just know of it. From a quick search it looks like you’re right tho, you’d probably need to use an external device like an android box or something.

          • guy@piefed.socialEnglish
            2 months

            What, it works for me? Put on an 8 hour video while doing chores and had ads every 5 minutes. Filled with rage I installed pihole and no more ads.

            • Decq@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2 months

              I’m curious how. Maybe a different region? I don’t have Pihole anymore but it didn’t use to do anything for me for YouTube. Luckily we have uBlock.

              • guy@piefed.socialEnglish
                2 months

                Maybe? My region is Sweden. I really haven’t had any ads on YouTube since installing pihole. “Works on my machine”

        • dkppunk@piefed.socialEnglish
          2 months

          I would love to run a long hdmi cable from my pc to my tv, but I have rabbits and they like the spicy hay

          • Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            2 months

            Oh no, I feel that, we had an orange kitty who adored his electric spaghetti! We had to run cables through that tube conduit stuff everywhere >.<

            • dkppunk@piefed.socialEnglish
              2 months

              Oh the orange ones are the most fun. I had a couple oranges as a kid and they were so sweet and so dumb. I loved them lol

          • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            2 months

            Look for an armored HDMI cable. They are wrapped in a steel jacket. Conduit is also an option.

            • dkppunk@piefed.socialEnglish
              2 months

              Conduit is probably the best option, I just haven’t done anything with it yet. And I might have to convince partner to cut some holes in the wall to make that work. I’ll eventually figure it out.

          • W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            2 months

            So I was watching Forrest Gump and he’s running through the jungles of Viet Nam. All of a sudden he stops running. And I know that’s not right because he hasn’t rescued “him” yet.

            Turns out my jerk face rabbit chewed through the Ethernet cable.

            Rabbits do love that spicy hay.

            • dkppunk@piefed.socialEnglish
              2 months

              And we love them even with their destructive habits. I love my two babies 😊

                • dkppunk@piefed.socialEnglish
                  2 months

                  What a handsome fella he was! Thank you for sharing.

                  Here are my buns

        • excursion22@piefed.caEnglish
          2 months

          Yeah I unsmarted my TV and just threw Mint on an old laptop. FreeTube works great on there.

      • djdarren@piefed.socialEnglish
        2 months

        I have a script that takes a YT URL on my clipboard and uses yt-dlp to download it to my Jellyfin folder so I can watch on my Apple TV on The Big Telly.

        Fuck adverts.

      • Quicky@piefed.socialEnglish
        2 months

        I use an Apple TV, but I assume it’s the same as any other streaming box or appropriate smart TV.

        The absolute piece-of-piss way to block all YouTube ads on it is to install a VPN like Proton, choose a relevant country (easily googleable), and there will be no ads whatsoever in YouTube.

        Google doesn’t serve ads on YouTube in a handful of countries.

      • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
        2 months

        Probably a fair percentage of users block þeir smart TVs from connecting to þe internet.

    • Beep@lemmus.orgBannedEnglish
      2 months

      Actually, YouTube is cracking down on adblockers.

      So while you might not feel the pain now, you will eventually.

      • Carnelian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 months

        They’ve been “cracking down on adblockers” for over a decade

        • LedgeDrop@lemmy.zipEnglish
          2 months

          “They” have also been trying to prevent consumers/us from taking ownership of our devices and data for the last 2-decades.

          … and, ya know what? It’s working.

      • webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        2 months

        Laughs in

        Txt file with favorite channels as input for a yt-dlp download script schedule. Combined with a selfhosted invidious and freetube desktop app for other then favorite videos.

        Honestly I am really tired of jumping trough hoops, have to make sure yt-dlp and invidious use a proxy (cloudflare warp) or google will ban your ip for being a bot.

        But having to deal with the actual YouTube site or reopening my google account is worse. Its not even (but still also) the ads at this point but pure resentment against big tech.

          • webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            2 months

            First I hear of if but a quick scroll shows it mostly to organize an existing collection so you would still need to download.

            I put them straight into jellyfin which works fine for me.

      • thetrekkersparky@startrek.websiteEnglish
        2 months

        The day I have to watch ads is the same day I stop youtube. So far ad blocks seem to work well for now and I’m more than willing to spend hours getting them working if needed.

      • Typhoon@lemmy.caEnglish
        2 months

        When it reaches that point I’ll stop watching YouTube. I will never feel the pain they inflict.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        2 months

        The moment I’m unable to watch YouTube ad-free is the moment I never watch YouTube again.

      • Rhaedas@fedia.io
        2 months

        I feel the pain anytime I look at a video outside of my browser. So if it becomes where I can’t find a workaround, then I’ll just have to go elsewhere. And there will be other places. There are other places, it’s just hard to get people to not go to or be on the big one. Push people hard enough, they’ll leave.

  • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    2 months

    What’s the end game with YouTube? Will it eventually cut all videos and show nothing but ads?

    • FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish
      2 months

      The ironic part is that there was a time where I’d watch hours long compilation videos of funny ads, and even now I watch 90s nostalgia ones set to vaporwave mixes. Hell, every person and their grandmother I knew at one time watched the Superbowl “just for the ads”.

      At some point, the goal of marketing shifted from “How do we keep your attention/whimsy” to “How can we force unwilling participants to comply?” Fuck that fascismo shit.

      • frongt@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2 months

        That’s always been the goal of marketing.

    • dellish@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 months

      Ahhh, so similar to Facebook then. I don’t bother with that site either.

  • solidsmoke@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 months

    If they just made the ads unintrusive people wouldn’t bother installing adblockers. But sure make the ads longer and see what happens.

    • just2look@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2 months

      Also changed how ads are served so they wouldn’t be a known security issue. Intrusive or not I will block all of them until security improves.

      • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2 months

        I have said it before, and I’ll say it again.

        As an IT guy I consider an adblocker an essential part of my computer security suite.

        I will not reconsider until there are laws in place forcing website owners to take legal and financial responsibility for any damage sustained to my computer when visiting their site, and loading their ads.

        IF the laws are changed like that, I would reconsider getting rid of my adblocker, ai still wouldn’t but I would reconsider the issue.

    • FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish
      2 months

      Exactly, people used to love ads. They would sit down and watch hour long compilation videos of the funniest and weirdest ones. People would get hyped for shit like Old Spice and Skittles and never skip it. Even the Superbowl was less entertaining than the ads it had and that was a mainstream opinion.

      It’s the exact same as the boomers who keep crowing “Why doesn’t anyone wanna work?!” but now it’s “Why doesn’t anyone want ads?!” lmao

      • FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish
        2 months

        Nah, take a look at the stats of the number of people who tried out an adblocker for the first time when Youtube attempted to ban them several months back. Streisand Effect in action.

    • Pamasich@kbin.earth
      2 months

      Most people still would.

      I personally wouldn’t, that’s why I use Adblock Plus. But there’s a reason everyone started hating on ABP when it started allowing non-intrusive ads by default. Most people do not want to see ads at all, no matter what.

    • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2 months

      Back in the day it was just some stuff, like “bosch screwdrivers, 29.90” or something, now it’s attention grabbing hyper annoying crap, who can even live with that?

  • AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    2 months

    My smart tube app wasn’t working tonight so watched YouTube on the normal app. I can’t believe people live like this, it’s actually unwatchable.

    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.todayEnglish
      2 months

      Seriously bro! I got revanced on my phone and smart tube next on the tv. I legit had to think about the last time I used the official app and it was nothing but angry memories. Waking up in the middle of a, and I’m not making this up, hour plus long ad! Always auto playing some ai slop bullshit about some murder or something slightly cosmological.

      I was jarred by an ad playing during LOTR on HBO just now.

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2 months

      If you run Fcast receiver on your android TV device, you can cast to it from Grayjay without ads.

    • Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      2 months

      Okay how good is Smart Tube for ypu? I downloaded it to my family Fire TV but my mom just refuses to use it, so we watch long, loud, unbearable ads all the time. I get that there’s no algorithm to find videos, but can you import subscriptions? My mom has noticed YT never shows her a few of her subscribed channels in her recommended anymore.

      • AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2 months

        It’s great. I’m pretty sure you can sign in so you get your algorithm and subscriptions. But it’s an incredible app. Infinitely better than the normal YouTube app.

  • Lemminary@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 months

    Time to double down on the adblocks, then. I get it conceptually, but I still don’t understand this need for infinite growth at everyone’s expense.

    • Soup@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 months

      Right? If I don’t otherwise pay for the service then sure, some ads are fine. Problem is that at this point I’m seeing ads every few minutes, and if the video restarts in a weird spot and reloads funny after I reopen my laptop I might even get the same ads looping after literally two seconds of video.

      Also, I was paying for the service and then they gave a fuckload of support to Israel to spread propaganda so I stopped.

    • aquovie@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      2 months

      When I checked the Fedi alternatives were far-right hangouts. Part of that unfortunate “free speech absolutist” == “asshole” phase.

      It’s not Fediverse but I like Nebula. It’s more like a co-op so I don’t mind paying for it at all.

      • MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 months

        I mean alternative platforms, not alternative ways to use YouTube (although this looks useful in the meantime, so thanks anyway)

          • Art3mis@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2 months

            I like nebula but it is pretty limited. Its mostly educational and essay type stuff. For the price it is amazing and the only streaming platform i have anymore. But i dont know if id call it a youtube alt unless you only watch that type of video. They have a handful of other things too but the variety just isnt there yet. The other thing i both like and dislike is the lack of comments.

            I do recommend it though. Crazy affordable, owned by the creators, ad free. Just kind of niche still

  • BiomedOtaku@lemmy.dbzer0.comBannedEnglish
    2 months

    Dam ads exist ? Been on YouTube Revanced for 5 years now 😂😂🖕🖕 fuck you google.

    I’d very much suggest everyone try YouTube Revanced.

    • Tiresia@slrpnk.netEnglish
      2 months

      Though android is likely going to crack down on them before the end of the year, so new users should switch to a degoogled or open source phone OS.

      Or download the videos using ytdlp, and use a cable to transfer them to your phone like it’s 2012.

    • Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish
      2 months

      It’s all fine and fun until Google prevents people from installing third party APKs in a few months…

      • boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        2 months

        Can they? Because I’ve got a modified YouTube ipa on my iPhone and that’s more closed than Android could ever become in the span of the next few months.

          • boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            2 months

            I don’t remember the exact procedure for this, but here’s the summary. You’ll first want to install sidestore or sidestore + livecontainer. Computer needed for that. You’ll also want a stock YouTube ipa file that you can then mod with YouTube Plus or similar utility.

            You’ll have to update livecontainer (if you installed it) and YouTube every 7 days unless you have a dev license but Sidestore does it with a single button press in-app so it’s not that inconvenient. You can install ipas within sidestore (limited amount at a time) or livecontainer (as many as you want I believe, but it’s more complicated) without connecting to a computer once the initial setup is done

      • workgood@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2 months

        they wont. thats just bs. there will be advanced flow to use ,and adb to install.

        • hietsu@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          2 months

          For us advanced users true, but for the bulk of people where ”just use this app instead” has worked previously, will not do it anymore. Whole lotta more hoops to jump through and google knows many will not be able to.

        • Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish
          2 months

          There will be an advanced flow for now, maybe (they didn’t explain how it will work). But our freedom is getting restricted nonetheless

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
    2 months

    You just gotta love the headline in the article, it’s trying to sell it as a great new feature

    VRC Non-Skip ads are now generally available, allowing brands to reach TV audiences with Google AI.

    • Ilumar@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2 months

      It is for their target audience. They’re not talking to you, they’re talking to their customers.

  • m3t00🌎🇺🇦@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 months

    yt pops up that ‘slowdowns? read more…’ nag while i’m not watching the ad. make me feel special

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
    2 months

    We’ve got a business model that didn’t even exist 25 years ago, and we’re making insane money!

    How can we fuck it up?

  • comrade19@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 months

    Am I bad because I pay for YouTube? I watch it so so much on different devices and also use YouTube music instead of Spotify. The paid teir hasn’t undergone enshittification yet (it always does). Thats when ill stop.

    • fierysparrow89@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 months

      I’m long past the point of even considering paying Google a dime for other people’s content.

      I’m getting sick of titles like these “… this changes everything…”, “scientists are mystified”, “…nobody knew…”, or some ridicoulus question as title. Majority of creators are hinting lately that yt “suggests” how to title and organize the topic for maximum visibility and monetization. In effect mandating their enshittification features.

      Nvm, the moment NewPipe stops being able to play a video in a normay way is the end of yt for me. Just like I left reddit for lemmy.

      • comrade19@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 months

        Yeah damn I refuse to click on that stuff. I like the slow content which is what I’m subscribed to and is all ill watch

    • FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish
      2 months

      Yeah you’re literally part of the problem lol

      You’re actively funding enshittification, at least the rest of us are innocent

    • Bluefruit@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 months

      Nothing wrong with that. I pay for YouTube premium. Tbh I got fed up with all the hoops on mobile so I just started paying for it and honestly, its been a good fit for me.

      I watch a ton of YouTube content so paying for it to support creators and not having ads is fine with me.

        • Bluefruit@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2 months

          According to an LTT video that broke down thier revenue about 11 months ago, 45% of your premium sub is divided among creators that you watch.

          Not sure how thats calculated, but it seems to be a pretty sizable chunk according to LTT.

          Skip to around 4:50 in the video

          https://youtu.be/GeCP-0nuziE

    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2 months

      Nah, nothing wrong with that. The problem isn’t users, it’s what the company expects from users.

    • NotAnArdvark@lemmy.caEnglish
      2 months

      I sure like it. “Free” YouTube is like using a browser without an blocker now - I forget how bad it is and I can’t believe people live like that.

      Being able to cancel Spotify was a nice bonus too.

      • RamRabbit@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 months

        “Free” YouTube is like using a browser without an blocker now

        What do you mean? UBlock Origin kills all the YouTube ads. Not giving money to Google is perfectly fine.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        2 months

        I have literally never seen a YouTube ad, I think, in my entire life. I would never pay for that experience.

    • psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2 months

      I too pay for youtube because i also use music and use it in 3 separated place. Honestly it worth it for me, and it’s not as expensive even after the price hike recently. Until it gone to the shitter i’ll keep using it.

    • FreddiesLantern@leminal.spaceEnglish
      2 months

      You’re not bad, google is bad.

      I’d suggest already exploring alternatives now. There’s front ends, alternate links, … all with pro’s and cons.

      I will say though, once you stop using an account and cut out the feed/algo out of your diet it becomes apparent very quick how much of a grip they hold on our attention just by the layout and such. Now I just check 2 channels every few days and even that’s losing my interest.