• The oil prices have not hit the average consumer hard yet. They are releasing oil reserves and taking other measures to artificially reduce the price increase. It will probably take a month or two before things really starts to go down.

    • Yeah gas prices (about the only commodity that normies interact with) have only gone up by like 30-40 cents per gallon, about the same price they were 6-12 months ago. Normies only wake up once it gets to around $4/gallon or about a full dollar per gallon more than usual.

      The last time gas prices went over $4 a gallon I heard many drivers of excessively large gas guzzling SUVs and Trucks complaining that they couldn’t fully fill their tanks due to the $100 limit on most gas pumps.

      The $4 mark was also when people started actually making choices to drive less (and voicing these choices) and if it was sustained they seemed likely to choose to replace their vehicles with something more efficient

  • 7 days

    The reality is none of this insanity has directly effected me. So day to day life, working, raising kids, etc. is completely normal for me. However, keeping up with news. Feeling empathy for people being effected now, and worrying about when the other shoe is going to drop on me and my family stresses me out. I don’t like being stressed out and avoid stress as much as possible, so I find myself just trying to stay distracted with hobbies, video games, etc. Then I feel guilty about distracting myself. If I can’t do much about the situation, I should at least inform myself about it. But then there comes the stress again…

    So yeah, in a way add me to the crashing out list I guess.

    • This is exactly me. Fired up the Xbox to play my favorite title, unfortunately its the Battlefield series. So there i am clawing at it in an oil field on fire or some middle Eastern city streets thinking about dead school girls and nothing I can do about it.

  • At this point, many of us are numb to the impending whatever. There is always 6 things happening that shouldn’t be happening (that we know about) and that could upend our lives. And usually there is very little we can do besides yell on the internet.

  • Behavioral standards plummeted during the pandemic and never recovered. People are a lot more stressed, and they refuse to behave. We’re divided, and it really does not help that our leadership literally believes that AI is going to replace most jobs.

    • I do not think the leaders believe that AI is going to replace most jobs. They definitely believe that they can use the threat of AI taking most jobs to further exploit the working class.

      • They really do though. Like, you’re assuming a level of rationality that they don’t possess.

        • Americans really struggle to come to terms with their elites and leaders being fucking evil instead of merely stupid.

          Jesus christ, look at your fucking history. Evil doesn’t always look like some hollywood ass villain.

          After a certain point it doesn’t matrer, but still come ON

          • You say that like it has to be one or the other. Most evil people in history were also stupid.

      • Yeah that’s mostly a justification for layoffs. They’re not competitive robotics manufacturing AI that cuts down the need for enormous chunks of capital for factory floor space + varied equipment + switching things up to change what you’re producing. They’re not competitive on the large computational engineering models important for R&D (which they’re not doing either) and iterating new rocket engines. It’s a giant grift, but people need to be careful not to universalize the values of Silicon Valley AI companies.

      • Hectic and our teachers are constantly complaining about how kids can’t do basic reading comprehension tasks. Like copy a sentence from the board into their notebook and then repeat it back to you in their own words. There are 13 year olds who cannot do this. There are adults who can’t do this. The majority of Americans read at or below the level of an 11 year old.

      • I live in a rural area in the US. Public school teachers are generally very good at their jobs, but a lot of the school boards around me have been taken over by the far right and so-called conservatives. They run on platforms like “ending forced vaccines for children” and banning transgender flags and they mostly win because there’s a lot of dumb racists here.

      • In fucking shambles. One of my dreams, if I ever win big on the rarely purchased lotto tickets, is to open a free clinic with free pharmacy, and a private, means-tested Pre-K12 Montessori school that only accepts on the poorest first and donations only buy your name on a plaque.

      • What do you mean by that? The standards of education or mental health in schools?

        In the U.S., schools are funded by property taxes, so schools in rich areas are fine, although educational standards suck across the nation.

      • Mostly okay. Slow discussion building on why test scores are dropping and are they still dropping. Is it COVID (immeidate shock), Long COVID (long term health issues), or nearly all course work and books being on tiny laptop screens (money showed up for a wholesale transfer to Chromebooks during COVID. They were actually helpful during lock-downs, but were kept after.).

  • “they”? the idea there is a singular “they” is laughable at best.

    most people are tuckin their heads down tryin to make it to their next paycheck… like they have for 40 years. thats the problem.

    too many people think their votes dont matter (~35% dont vote at all ever), so we end up in a world where the north lost the civil war and fascists have come to roost.

    • too many people think their votes dont matter

      They’re correct

    • We don’t live in this world because of elections, we live in this world because Northern leadership refused to execute the Southern leadership and officers and put the soldiers on some kind of list (they were good friends)

    • To be fair, it really doesn’t seem like people’s votes matter. That’s why there is currently a corrupt criminal in office.

    • My mom STILL insists that the war wasn’t about slavery, and so thinks the South should’ve won and isn’t offended by the Confederate flag.

      But she’s “not a racist, I like all those black people more than this white person”.

      • Have you told her about the cornerstone speech, where the vice president of the confederacy says, literally, that the institution of slavery is the cornerstone upon which the entire confederacy was built

  • Depends on the person. I’m a therapist, tons of my clients are very upset, scared, crying, having trouble sleeping, depressed, feeling powerless and angry, etc.

    This administration’s actions are taking a huge toll on some people’s mental health.

    And people who are trans or gay? They are scared and many want to get out but can’t.

    Having said all that… there are plenty of people who are not bothered because they are not informed and don’t realize how bad things really are.

    • it’s propaganda… they are using all media (which they essentially not control) to overwhelm and force people to stop paying attention. you’ll probably notice that your clients, slowly over time are getting less and less angry/extremely emotional and are essentially becoming numb to all the random information that they are consuming.

      their goal with propaganda isn’t to make you think, it’s to make you not think. our human tendencies to rationalize and question is essentially being bombarded to the point of emotional collapse. this is the end goal for propaganda, to force complicity through emotional shutdown.

  • The average American barely has any idea there’s a war even happening or who the president is. Half the people I know think Biden is still president. Even people who do know there’s a war wouldn’t be able to find Iran on a map. Everything about our government and everything it does might as well be a TV show to my fellow Americans. They see it as fiction that doesn’t impact our lives and most people think it’s extremely boring so they tune it out.

    People are crashing out but for different but associated reasons. Everyone’s broke, no one can afford healthcare, there’s a mass shooting every 3 days. Everyone’s tired and the alienation is so thick that people are all pointing in different directions to where they think the problem is. People are getting more conspiracy brained and twitchy.

    • Even people who do know there’s a war wouldn’t be able to find Iran on a map.

      I work a customer service facing job at the poop factory. The only person I’ve ever heard mention the war is one overly chatty customer who asked me “so did you hear we’re in another war now?” with the same cadence as “did you catch the big game last night?”

  • People rarely distinguish between the sentiment of a demographic versus the sentiment of the individuals that make up that demographic. Hence, stereotypes.

    “Americans” are not a monolith. There’s almost 400 million people in this country. Idk how each individual is doing, but most of the people I know are too busy trying to keep their heads financially above water to care. The actual American people have very little say over what happens in this country, and most are just as trapped in the horror as the rest of the world.

    Does a country without public transit, universal healthcare, or any social safety nets sound like a country where the average person is in control to you?

  • The ‘background noise’ is getting louder but for the most part, people are just carrying about their day worried about their own personal lives

  • I just recently got a bunch of medical stuff and psychiatric stuff sorted out after decades of barely being able to function. So I’m finally feeling “normal” and the state of our politics has me stressed to the point of action, but not to the point of curling up in a ball and doing nothing, which is unusual for me. Very surreal to be functional in a nonfunctional world.

  • There have been many organized protests against Trump since he took office. I’m not sure how much press they’ve received outside the US. Though many still support him because they are indoctrinated into the MAGA cult, I would say that most (over half) of Americans are against the war for a variety of reasons.

    The problem is that there is not much we can do in the short term to create change. Our system of government does not have an effective means to recall a leader.

    The threat of legal action does little to deter this administration. For one thing, it’s slow. For another, they’ve shown that they can and will ignore court orders and this far don’t suffer any consequences. Finally, the administration has done as much as possible to install loyalists and remove honest people in every part of government, including the legal system.

    Impeachment is a joke. Even if the process was started again, Republicans in the Senate would never convict one of their own.

    So the average citizen doesn’t approve of what is happening but don’t see any effective means to change. It’s a very helpless feeling. Many disgruntled communities have been able to create some change in their local government but even changing political parties is not real change. We still have 2 right wing parties bought by special interests. I think many of us just try to do good where we can in our own sphere of influence.

  • I was fired a month or so after the intentional stock market crash. Jobs are no longer existent, likely to be worse than 2008. Most of us can’t afford a home let alone rent for an apartment. Medication is expensive even with insurance, and that’s assuming you can even obtain it as the fda/dea are in some sort war causing shortages. Our government is killing people. Our friends are being put on lists/into databases for being queer. Our government is threatening our allies, resulting in them hating us further inhibiting our ability to get assistance and or leave. Concentration camps are being built. Drones are being tested around the country along with mass deployment of facial recognition cameras. Data centers are sucking up the water. All of our data was looted by foreign connected individuals posing as government waste reduction. They’re attempting to get rid of physical cash by removing production of the penny. Age verification laws are being baked into everything we love in an effort for additional surveillance. We’ve been infiltrated by Russia and Israel. We’re being dragged into another oil war even though many of us witnessed the effects of the previous one on our friends and family. They’re rolling back women’s rights. Pedophile billionaires are wrapped up in all this. And it seems anyone who could have done anything in their positions have failed us. So yes, I’d say that’s the definition of crashing out.

  • I’m sure some people are. But constantly crashing out isn’t useful even in the worst situations. What is useful is taking real steps that have real effects. Action is the antidote for anxiety.

  • I have a “conservative” friend. We both had a bit of a crashout discussion last night. We’re American.

    The economy is crashing in front of our eyes. We’re both extremely privileged and lucky and we both recognize it and we recognize how fucking stupid everything is in our society. We recognize we’re powerless to even change the nature of our jobs.

  • Side topic:

    ls “normalburger” a word commonly used in English?
    If so, what does it mean (I assume it does not refer to grilled beef patties?)

    My English dictionary draws a blank here…

    • Maybe it’s a regional thing, but I don’t think it’s a common phrase. I’ve heard “nothing-burger” a lot, and this may be someone playing off that.

    • No, I think the expression it plays off of is “nothing-burger” which is more common. Like, when everyone is expecting a very bad or very good thing to happen and nothing comes of it: “Well, that was a big nothing-burger” … that and leftist online discourse calling the US “burgerland” or the burger-reich

      • I am not an American.

        The word “Normalbürger” is a very common expression in my own language, but that’s clearly not how you used it in your post, hence my question.

        So, what does it mean?

        • Oh, how burgerbrained of me not to think outside the target audience, my mistake man, but it also doesn’t work without the assumption of nationality. I made up the word on the spot, but let me check if someone else got there first.

          Burgerbrained would be an actual example of a trending portmanteau in English. Invest now

          • Then better use burgerbrained (which doesn’t seem like a portmanteau to me btw), avoids possible confusion with the existing word.

            “Normalbürger” in German-based languages just means “average citizen” in a completely neutral way.
            So not what you have been going for.

            • Bürger has the same root as bourgeois, and Wiktionary lists “bourgeois” as a definition of the German word (besides “citizen”).

              The portmanteau in English is presumably not derived in the same way. It’s a reference to the favorite American treat found at cultural landmarks such as McDonalds. Only tangentially related to the German thru Hamburg -> Hamburger sandwich -> Cheeseburger

              It’s likely closer to normal+burgerreicher or normal+burgerlander.