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Today I Learned@lemmy.worldbyNomNom@feddit.ukBanned
10 days

TIL that Germany ran a program where they deliberately paired orphans with pedophiles on the theory that someone sexually attracted to them would take better care of them

www.newyorker.com English
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    The German Experiment That Placed Foster Children with Pedophiles
    www.newyorker.com
    With the approval of the government, a renowned sexologist ran a dangerous program. How could this happen?
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    • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.deEnglish
      10 days

      For those looking for a source that doesn’t require a subscription: https://www.dw.com/en/berlin-authorities-placed-children-with-pedophiles-for-30-years/a-53814208

        • Mirshe@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10 days

          Behind the Bastards also did a great series on it

            • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.netEnglish
              9 days

              “The Darkest Episode We Will Ever Do.”

              https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-the-darkest-episode-we-will-ever-do-176118047

                • Mac@mander.xyzEnglish
                  9 days

                  This could have been a 30 minute conversation.
                  I recognize that my inability to listen to random people yap is my own problem, but get to the point.

                    • rosco385@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                      9 days

                      I love Behind the Bastards, actually pretty much anything by Robert Evans, but I stopped listening for this exact reason.

                      • nogooduser@lemmy.worldEnglish
                        9 days

                        If that’s a problem for you then Behind the Bastards is not for you.

                        I’d say that the aim of the podcast is not to document the events in question (that information could always be found elsewhere) but to document the back story behind the events in detail.

                          • Mac@mander.xyzEnglish
                            9 days

                            That not necessarily the problem—I’m the type to watch the multi-hour retrospectives about videogames—the problem is all the off-topic chitchat.

                  • blarghly@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    9 days

                    Man, this is even worse than trying to teach dolphins english using acid and hand jobs

                      • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
                        9 days

                        It’s funny because everyone knows dolphins prefer the romance languages.

                        • morto@piefed.socialEnglish
                          9 days

                          that was too specific

                            • blarghly@lemmy.worldEnglish
                              9 days

                              The truth is stranger than fiction

                                • IWW4@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                  9 days

                                  That was a wild read!

                              • trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                                9 days

                                Oh lawd they gave the murder machines lysergic

                                  • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                    9 days

                                    lysergic

                                    I joke about “lysdexic” so often my brain read that as “dyslexia” at first. heh

                                  • billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                    9 days

                                    No hablo inglés.

                                    Es tut mir leid, ich spreche kein Englisch.

                                    Je ne parle pas anglais.

                                    मैं अंग्रेज़ी नहीं बोलता।

                                    Извините, я не говорю по‑английски.

                                  • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.orgEnglish
                                    9 days

                                    Fun fact: That was almost exactly the time frame where the Berlin Senate was lead by the conservative CDU (who, within the same time frame, never got tired of slandering their Green opposition as the “pedophile party”)

                                      • starlinguk@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                        9 days

                                        And yet people keep voting for them.

                                      • sober_monk@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                        9 days

                                        pedophiles

                                        the government

                                        Name a more iconic duo.

                                          • ServantOfRa@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                            9 days

                                            Conservatives and projection

                                            • MissJinx@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                              9 days

                                              Germany and Bad decisions

                                              • Sinaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                9 days

                                                There are a lot of decent people working for the government that do an amazing job given the constraints they are put under.

                                                But thank you for your nuanced take, I guess?

                                                  • sober_monk@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                    9 days

                                                    Kentler believed pedophiles could make acceptable foster parents, and that any sexual contact would be relatively harmless if it were not forced.

                                                    How’s that for a nuanced take

                                                    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                      9 days

                                                      I remember when I first swapped to Lemmy nuanced discussions were numerous, been seeing a lot of relatively new accounts stirring up shit and doing the classic “I’m gonna make them look so stupid huehuehue”

                                                      You’re right though, despite the fact there are a lot of sociopaths and psychopaths in government positions, there are a lot of social workers and general day to day folks that are normal or go above and beyond to try and help their community with what little power they have.

                                                  • Eternal192@anarchist.nexusEnglish
                                                    10 days

                                                    Sure, fucking sure… kept staring at the screen after i put the three dots and so much was going through my head to write about this but all that was left after about 30 mins of staring at the screen was what’s the point, it’s like trying to put out a wildfire with a dry dish rag.

                                                    • Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                      9 days

                                                      What the fucking fuck

                                                      • Echolynx@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                        9 days

                                                        Like many of his contemporaries, Kentler came to believe that sexual repression was key to understanding the Fascist consciousness.

                                                        Hm…

                                                        • danglybits27@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                          10 days

                                                          https://removepaywalls.com/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles

                                                            • CannonFodder@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                              9 days

                                                              Wow. This continued until at least 2003.

                                                            • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                              9 days

                                                              I’m surprised no one… took this to court? I’m sure this would have been against laws even back then

                                                                • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.deEnglish
                                                                  9 days

                                                                  From the source I linked in my other coment:

                                                                  By the time his victims came forward, the statute of limitations for his actions had expired.

                                                                  I don’t know how long it would have been back then, but today, sexual assault of a minor has a maximum prison sentence of more than ten years but less than life, so the statute of limitations is 20 years.

                                                                • etchinghillside@reddthat.comEnglish
                                                                  10 days

                                                                  Wish there was a copy of that grant proposal.

                                                                  • yermaw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                                    9 days

                                                                    • eddie@feddit.onlineEnglish
                                                                      10 days

                                                                      just another rational and well thought out day in germany!

                                                                        • Widdershins@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                          9 days

                                                                          It’s almost the worst thing Germans did.

                                                                        • Agent641@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                          9 days

                                                                          Aight later y’all

                                                                          • quick_snail@feddit.nlEnglish
                                                                            9 days

                                                                            This started in the 1960s.

                                                                            I figured it was something from hundreds of years ago.

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