• 14 days

    “since 2020”? there are lines all the way back to 2000. the graph doesn’t seem to acknowledge this either.

    also what the hell is that x-axis labelling…

  • 13 days

    I see all this shit and I can’t do anything to change it. Protest? They get ignored. Strikes? I need to pay rent. Sorting trash, living without car, buying organic? Someone with a private jet produces more emission in a day than I do in a lifetime.

    I feel like I’m pissing in an active volcano.

    • Protest. Vote. Do what you can to make changes in your own life - and talk about them.

      The individual doesn’t make that big a difference on their own, but by getting the word out, an individual also moves the dial on what is normal and what is acceptable. Topical: there’s a lot of talk about air conditioning now due to the heat waves. Among my friends I quite strenuously objected to people using aircon when, generally, we can make do with passive approaches and fans. (Most people in my country keep the windows open in a heatwave even when it’s hotter outside - that’s how useless we are as a country). Someone else also asked if I was thinking about getting aircon, and I said I wouldn’t do it unless I had solar panels. These kinds of conversations don’t convince anyone who thinks “drill baby drill” to give up flights, meat and comforts like A/C but they still matter, because a person’s opinions are influenced by everything they hear.

      I’m not vegetarian, but I’ll talk to anyone about how I consciously eat significantly less meat than I used to for mainly environmental reasons and it’s the same thing.

      • Most people in my country keep the windows open in a heatwave even when it’s hotter outside

        what the fuck? why do they do that?

        • Because the vast majority of the time, opening a window lets in a breeze which is cooling. But now the climate is hotter and you need a fan.

          • I don’t get it. the point was, they do that even when it’s hotter outside. I’m probably missing something, but there was another post recently where OP was furious that they couldn’t keep the window open, and I didn’t get that either.

            • An important part of how you perceive the temperature is humidity. And since humans cool down by sweating, a human in an enclosed space will quickly raise the humidity to a point where if feels noticeably hotter, especially if they remain mostly stationary. So, opening a window does bring relief, even if the air outside is hotter.

            • It’s not smart, but it does make sense, because it’s usually the right thing to do in warm weather.

      • 13 days

        Have you seen how many flights Infantino took during the World Cup?

        It doesn’t matter what you or those around you do. Get an AC, eat meat, burn plastic in your garden or glue yourself to a street. As long as the rich, powerful and governments don’t care it’s only making your own life more difficult.

        • Billions of ordinary humans still consume much more fossil fuels and meat than the super rich. And that consumption is giving unsustainable industries even more money for lobbying and to stay profitable.

          This sense of futility is whats keeping their business model alive as long as possible. It’s what’s giving them the largest benefit they could possibly hope for. Don’t do their lobbying work for them.

          If there were no billionaires, our unsustainable consumption would still drive climate change, just a bit slower. Just pointing at them isn’t sufficient. We need political and individual action.

          The argument also kinda sounds like “well if there are people that literally kill thousands of people, then me hurting a few people in my life doesn’t make much of a difference.” Which is a quite silly.

          Sustainable technologies like public transport, EVs and meat alternatives also need demand to grow, to become normalized, widely accessible and cheaper through scaling. Early adopters have a much larger effect on the overall trajectory than late adopters.

          If progressive people just do what’s practicable to have a positive impact where they can, that has a large effect. And many already do. We need more of that.

        • Bullshit. There are more of us than there are Infantinos.

          Compare how many flights Infantino took (27) to how many additional flights were laid on so that football fans could see world cup games (thousands*). Fuck off with this shitty excuse. If you were a football fan and you said, “I’m not going to travel because of the environmental cost” your action and your voice, together with the voices of others, could easily outweigh all of Infantino’s flying. But no, you want to do the opposite: you want to tell everyone to be worse, to use your voice for evil.

          The least you can do, if through some mental defect you want your own actions to contribute to death and destruction, is to shut up about it.

          • American Airlines alone is quoted as saying that it has scheduled an additional 150 flights.
          • 13 days

            You’re too stupid to understand an example. I’m out

            • I understand your example, that’s why I was able to talk about it competently. I disagree with your conclusion.

              I’m glad you’ll be stopping the spread of your poisonous doomerism. Please keep that up.

    • You are part of an interconnected world. You influence everybody around you, you influence yourself, you influence your society and you influence the world. Ofcourse you can bring about change.

      Just find your inner healthy self and spread it. That way you turn the world healthy again. Its that simple.

        • it is you that decide whether you have change force or not

          it seems like you have chosen to reject it

          • 13 days

            Good thing you know what I do and don’t do. I’m really glad I got your judgement on that.

    • The two most effective legal things you can do to help with climate are eating vegan and not having children.

      • Just stop eating red meat makes the 70% of going vegan in the greenhouse gas department if I recall correctly.

        So if you still want animal products just reduce or stop eating beef and that would do a lot.

        Some source as reference https://woods.stanford.edu/news/meats-environmental-impact

        I might have underestimate how much difference there is between beef and other animal products. Between methane and land usage they might pollute an order of magnitude above other meats.

      • 13 days

        The two most effective legal things you can do to help with climate are eating vegan and not having children.

        According to Wynes et al. 2017 PDF (graph), while it’s true that not having children is by far the best thing to try to prevent the anthropogenic climate cascade, veganism is only the 6th most important thing.

        Being:

        • car-free,
        • flight-free, and
        • fossil-fuel free for energy,

        are all more important than being vegan.

        When not just looking at anthropogenic climate, but ethical living overall; then yes, veganism is the 2nd most important thing after being child-free, because animal husbandry and fishing result in the torturing to death of 2-6 trillion fish per year, and on factory farms the enslavement in torturous conditions of 1-3 trillion fish and billions of non-aquatic animals every year.

      • 13 days

        eating vegan and not having children

        So if you want to get rid of your children you cannot be vegan, this is just greatttt…

        /s in case this is not clear…

  • 14 days

    This is the biggest natural disaster Germany has been through in decades and nobody really acknowledges it. In terms of deaths, this is more fatal than the attack on the world trade center in the United States in 2001.

  • 14 days

    The real insanity is people allowing this to become a debate about air conditioning rather than facing the actual existential global crisis that this is merely (yet another) warning shot of.

  • 14 days

    The yearly total is more important. In winter, days average at 3500 and go down in summer to 2500.

    If we get global warming just right, we can reduce mortality to 2500 for the entire year. All it takes to prevent the spikes of heat waves is installing some air conditioning.

    /s

  • A colleague of mine thinks ‘this wasnt a heatwave, it was just a few days’ 🤪🤡

  • 14 days

    These are the kinds of events that are going to wake people up to the reality. Climate change isn’t going away. It’s still such a shame that Germany got rid of its nuclear power.

    • 14 days

      This might not be the great solution to this anymore, if you cannot cool them sufficiently under heat. Which is kind of the trademark of climate change and its during heatwaves where you need energy cool down actively.

    • bruh nuclear isnt economic, considering all costs its hurting they economy. There was never a single nuclear power plant that was profitable over its whole life cycle. Its a massive burden for the tax payer and that money would be way better spend into renewable energy sources…u know…they kind where you dont need to keep the trash far away from humans for the next million years.

      I am sick of tired of people sugesting nuclear in the context of climate change. Germany dosent even have own sources of uran ore (non that are usefull at least) so the fuel has to get importef from fucking russia or from australia where the mining fucks over nature and humans that life near by from the dust.

      There is NOTHING moral about nuclear power (besides for space probes) so stop framing it as a solution for climate change.

  • What’s the high squiggle in March? I would have assumed covid but it’s the wrong shade of blue to be 2020 (it could be 2021, but that’s a year into the pandemic, so seems like a strange time to have a spike in deaths)

    • 13 days

      Covid was never particularly deadly but to the elderly (and I guess very young?). For me the scary part was always the neurological and physical damage it causes.

      • a major problem was also hospitals being filled, hence people saying “flatten the graph” or whatever.

      • I mainly ask because during the pandemic I remember seeing graphs where this looked quite different.

  • These are mostly old ppl in elderly care right? Mayyybe these and hospitals should have mandatory air conditioning?

    • 14 days

      This exactly what many politicians are pushing now. Makes a lot of sense.