Researchers have come up with two new urinal designs to prevent the spillage of “ill-aimed pee.”
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- 1 year
I have to imagine that a fair amount of that is intentional. Some people are just pigs.
1 yearTwo things that rattle around my brain constantly:
- Leave it better than you found it.
- Be mindful of the work you leave for others.
- shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Those don’t even come to my mind, I live them without thought.
OK, sometimes if a thing is a PITA I’ll think, “Crap, can’t make someone else do it.”
- shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Nah, not better. You will eventually stop thinking about these things and they’ll just happen.
- very_well_lost@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
For a while I worked for a shitty little marketing company that had, shall we say, a high frequency of narcissistic traits among the C suite. The men’s room in that office was the worst I’ve ever seen in terms of there always being puddles of piss on the floor.
Also, a very large majority of the execs didn’t wash their hands when they were finished.
- anon947262949@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
I’m struggling to find sources for this but I’d love to learn more. Anything you can share?
- Hobo@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
I’m pretty sure they are either making shit up or regurgitating something that was made up by someone else. Most bad habits that people attribute to some personality disorder is just nonsense and you can fairly easily disregard it. It’s like the asshole that says they’re OCD because they think it means you’re a little quirky.
- Septimaeus@infosec.pubEnglish1 year
I can’t explain the psychology behind it, but this really simple design technique apparently still works.
Apparently some men need a reason to aim, and will continue doing so even after they realize they’ve been bamboozled.
- sensualsunset@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
*some men…it’s pretty difficult to miss the bowl when seated lol
- Korrok@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish1 year
Yeah, but there’s plenty of women who don’t want to touch the toilet seat so they hover over it and get it dirty as a result.
- Shou@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Ironic isn’t it? It would have been fine if everyon just sat down. Just whipe the seat with a cleaning tissue first if you don’t trust it.
The researchers suggest that if Nautilus was to replace the 56 million urinals across the U.S., around 1 million liters of urine would be prevented from being splashed onto the floor every day. Assuming that the volume of water needed to clean up spilled urine is about 10 times that of the volume of urine, about 10 million liters (2,199,692 gallons) of fresh water could be saved every day, the scientists said.
The widespread adoption of these urinal designs “would result in considerable conservation of human resources, cost, cleaning chemicals, and water usage, rendering large-scale impacts on modern society by improving sustainability, hygiene, and accessibility,” the researchers wrote.
They should drop everything and do this first thing.
- datavoid@lemmy.mlEnglish1 year
Assuming that the volume of water needed to clean up spilled urine is about 10 times that of the volume of urine, about 10 million liters (2,199,692 gallons) of fresh water could be saved every day, the scientists said.
These scientists appear to be working under the incorrect assumption that the urine gets cleaned…
- archemist@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish1 year
They’re also assuming the bathroom floors wouldn’t be cleaned regularly if there wasn’t urine on them. I’m pretty sure all buildings with a custodial staff mops the floor everyday, bathrooms twice a day. They’d at most reduce cleaning the bathroom to once daily instead if these urinals we’re absolutely perfect and no other reason for cleaning bathroom floors existed.
Think of what we could be doing with that urine if we actually invested in recapturing it.
Not sure if youre sarcastic or not (I was), but there has actually been research if the nutrients in urine can be used as fertiliser and I believe the result was positive.
- Redex@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
But urinals are so much more efficient both in regards to water usage and time.
- Redex@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Sure pal, and it’s not like 90% of men piss standing into a toilet as well, which oftentimes ends up worse than using a urinal.
- 1 year
American here. I’ve started doing this at home and it’s just way more sanitary. No more drops off pissy toilet water splashing around.
When I’m out and about I still pee standing up because public restrooms are filthy.
- chunkystyles@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 year
I sit to pee when I get up in the middle of the night. Don’t have to be able to see.
I used to be in this camp, but will now avoid public toilets whenever possible. Not having to sit on others pee and butt sweat is pretty awesome.
Us poor women gotta sit :(
Well when there are no seat covers, I always lay some TP over the seat before sitting. Or squat without sitting.
First wipe the seat, because people be nasty and leave piss droplets while hovering, then line the TP. Unless there’s no toilet seat, then it’s hover time.
- cholesterol@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
People might sit more in your country, but I’ve never heard of that being particularly European.
- cholesterol@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Hmm, well there’s that. So Germany and Scandinavia ranker higher (I’m from Denmark and sometimes sit). I have to wonder how this correlates to a standard development index. It’s not unusual for the US to be a cultural outlier on those.
- Septimaeus@infosec.pubEnglish1 year
Love that word/anecdote! It’s a good example of a German compound word but it’s also one of the silliest examples of male identity gatekeeping I’ve heard of.
- 1 year
Squat and pee.
Sitting and standing is bad.
/Italian man
- 1 year
Pee however you want
Worrying about what other people do when they aren’t hurting anyone is fragile
/Master man
In fucking straya? That shit just decides to stop working sometimes.
It’s because people stand too far back from the urinal, and then shake it like they are trying to kill it. Get in there, and then finish with a gentle squeeze or two and you won’t splatter everywhere.
- acockworkorange@mander.xyzEnglish1 year
I once saw a road stop urinal that had a step that forced you to get to the right distance. Genius and simple.
- 1 year
My biggest issue is stream strength. I have issues peeing and often dribble or have a split stream.
Yes I’ve talked to my urologist about it. Several in fact.
No it’s not my prostate. No it’s not a weak pelvic floor.
I’ve been suffering with this for almost 20 years and docs still don’t know what’s going on.
- wischi@programming.devEnglish1 year
How about just sitting down on the toilet? Don’t get me wrong it’s great you got it checked out but sometimes there are pretty simple solutions.
- 1 year
I knew a guy in high school that absolutely refused to sit to pee. Said every time he had to shit he would stand to pee than turn around and go.
Some men are just insane
- 1 year
I asked him if he ever cropped dusted himself by accident and everyone laughed when he hesitated
- 1 year
Sitting down isn’t always feasible. For example, the bathroom in my house has a round toilet bowl and my cock doesn’t fit. The bathroom is too small for an elongated bowl.
I use a cup for home and at work I just do my best.
- wischi@programming.devEnglish1 year
I have no idea how small your toilet or large your penis is, but what do you do with your penis, when you have bowel movement?
- 1 year
My penis sits on the toilet seat between my legs. It’s uncomfortable to put under the seat to pee.
- acockworkorange@mander.xyzEnglish1 year
How do you not pee while poopping? I thought all poopoo times were peepee times.
- Blumpkinhead@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Maybe he does. Where do you think all these liters off spilled pee are coming from?
I will sit when every toilet is elongated enough to not risk rubbing my junk on the rim.
I wonder wether they took these kinds of things in account in the research, if it’s about collecting to highest percentage of pee possible than I’d argue this matters too. They also say their design is better for children and people in wheelchairs so who knows.
- Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 year
Just thinking how many times I use a urinal a year, multiply by population, the only way this makes sense is with some number of people just pissing onto the floor.
- fartemoji@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
I can’t speak for the whole country but where I work people really do just piss on the floor.
- Crikeste@lemm.eeEnglish1 year
THIS IS WHY
If we could all be civil and just sit down to pee, the world would be a better place.
- slaveOne@reddthat.comEnglish1 year
Yes I’ve been saying this for at least 20 years. Toilets are for sitting and urinals are for standing. My wife also appreciates this.
- Crikeste@lemm.eeEnglish1 year
The problem is: This only works if EVERYONE does it. The second anyone breaks and gets a few drops on the toilet seat, it’s over. Because that is part of the reason we stand in the first place. We know how gross we are, and if you can see the gross it validates that.
I hate society 😔 lmfao
- Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 year
So you think the average person uses a public urinal more than 365 times a year? Also about half the population sit.
I didn’t write the article :)
If you’re angry about the math comment, bust out a calculator. You could have reached that verdict yourself.
- Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 year
A calculator isn’t going to tell me how many times a year I use a urinal.
- howrar@lemmy.caEnglish1 year
About three times per day during the work day makes for ~800 times per year. Seems to be on the right order of magnitude to me.
- xploit@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Anyone, whether it’s man or woman, who pisses or shits or whatever all over a toilet (i.e. not inside) has quite likely never cleaned a fucking toilet in their life.
Source: Have cleaned toilets, not just my own, before - it has changed me.
I mean the dick is sometimes arbitrary, even when you make sure as not to have any foreskin in the way of your urethra.
But if that happens to me, I’m usually courteous enough to take a hit of paper and at least dab most of it away. But if it’s a rank toilet with already piss waving on the floor, no thanks. Sorry. Can’t help, the amount of toilet paper in one cubicle isn’t enough. And usually the places with that level of hygiene don’t necessarily have even a toilet seat, let alone several rolls of paper.
- 1 year
Story time.
It honestly feels like about 264,000 gallons of that were spilled at a placed I used to work. I still have no idea who the culprit(s) was.
No kidding, the problem was so bad that building management stepped in and… added chamomile scented floor mats beneath the urinals to catch and deodorize the… ugh (gross)… drippings. It was such a strong smell that it wafted out into the hallway with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. This prompted some of the women in the office to remark at how unfair it was that the men’s room was obviously getting all this extra attention. I almost can’t describe the mixture of disappointment and disgust on their faces once I explained why this was happening.
I also once had to explain to my wife that the above situation, along with the smell of urinal cakes and most gas-station-restroom deodorizers, are the reason why chamomile tea is a hard pass for me.
- Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 year
Should build them as wet rooms, periodically a large shower head sprays down the entire room.
- DudeDudenson@lemmings.worldEnglish1 year
I love the mental image of a government employee having the job of spilling barrels of piss into bathrooms around the nation
Do a small test with a single user, take the amount of spillage then times it by the pissing population and average numbers of wees a day.
It is literally in the article: https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/4/4/pgaf087/8098745
Spilled makes it sound like someone’s clumsily carrying around a barrel of urine throughout public toilets.
- ObM@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Thank you protestor. I mean it doesn’t even pass the possibility test. 300m people population, 1m litres ≈ 300L per person, per day?
- MissGutsy@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish1 year
You got your numbers mixed around.
1m liters/340m men = 0.00294 liters per day
That’s just under 3ml, which is very little, but still seems high. Assuming that not every man is using only the urinal, the number per urinal usage is even higher. But I also don’t know american public bathrooms, are they that filthy?
- Dicska@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
I’m sure there’s one weirdo responsible for ~70m liters, peeing at the floor at every opportunity.
- BreadstickNinja@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
It’s not my fault. It just flails around like a garden hose and even with both hands I simply don’t have the strength to wrangle that python.
- Solumbran@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
It’s the opposite, it would be 1/300 L/person/day, or 1L per 300 persons
- HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish1 year
I do like the Nautilus and wish the designed for everyone philosophy was the predominant one. Especially you get one lower level one put in when they could all be functional for everyone.
“The researchers’ Cornucopia and Nautilus designs both achieved a significant reduction in urine splashing, with the Cornucopia performing best. However, the Nautilus was considered the most ideal design due to its height, which would allow shorter people — including children or those in wheelchairs — to more easily use it. Its larger gape would also be easier to clean, and would be more accepting of poor aim, and therefore would also be appropriate for use on boats or airplanes.”
