Unwittingly had ‘sex’ with a child, realised it was a child, had ‘sex’ a second time.

And wrote a song about it. And then wrote it into his autobiography.

How this man apparently skated through the #MeToo movement unscathed is truly baffling.

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    Legally it depends on local laws. Morally it’s really up to debate, but there definitely are some 14-year-olds that are mature enough to consent.

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      legally it depends on local laws.

      Yeah nah. Romeo & Juliet laws don’t cover this because 14 and 20 is too far apart. And you can not legally consent if you’re under 18 in almost all developed countries. There is no legal debate for these countries.

      There definitely are some 14-year-olds that are mature enough to consent.

      Hard disagree. Some will say or act like they consent but at 14 your brain is not fully developed. They might find out how bad of a decision that was only 10 years later. Consent does not only mean verbal or physical agreement, but also to be absolutely sure someone has a full understanding of all actions and consequences, and at 14 you can not presume that. There’s a reason the age of consent is 18. Almost everyone has developed a grasp of these things at 18yo and above.

      He is not a Jeffrey Epstein, but holy shit call it what it is.

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        And you can not legally consent if you’re under 18 in almost all developed countries.

        It’s odd how you’re not old enough to consent to sex (which is, you know, lending your body to somebody else) but you’re old enough to work for a company (which is, you know, lending your body to somebody else).

        https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/youthlabor/agerequirements

        Age Requirements

        The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets wage, hours worked, and safety requirements for minors (individuals under age 18) working in jobs covered by the statute. The rules vary depending upon the particular age of the minor and the particular job involved. As a general rule, the FLSA sets 14 years old as the minimum age for employment, and limits the number of hours worked by minors under the age of 16.

        The same age should apply to both, don’t you think?

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        Tell me you are from the USA without telling me you are from the USA.

        Calling literally ALL of Europe “not developed” is… something. Age of consent in EU is around 15, and it is 14 in many countries including Germany (which has equivalent of Romeo & Juliet laws above the age of 21, but still 14 and 20 sleeping together would be 100% legal).

        So, please look outside of your borders once in a while, it may change your perspective. :)

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          So much wrong with this…I encourage you to actually look up the laws you’re talking about before you start exploiting minors in Europe. For starters, the EU has no age of consent.

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            In Germany, performing sexual actions on a child, i.e. minors below 14, is a crime, commonly called child abuse (§176 StGB). If someone is working with minors, e.g. as a teacher, it’s illegal to perform (even “consensual”) sexual actions on minors (students of their school) below 16 or 18, respectively, if they are in some authority relation with said minor (e.g. their teacher) (§174 StGB).

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              Yes every country in Europe has laws that address power relationships and ages of consent. “Age of consent in EU is around 15” is a meaningless statement and “14 and 20 sleeping together would be 100% legal” is quite incomplete with regard to Germany. People have been throwing variations of these statements around the internet since the beginning.

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          While technically correct, it’s worth pointing out that must places still have stachatory laws in there too. My state for instance has age of consent at 16 but if one of the participants is older than 18 the younger or their legal guardian can press charges.

          This is because it’s unreasonable to expect dating 16 year olds are celibate and punishing them is dumb, however, by 18 you should know you don’t fuck kids in highschool and then it’s left up to the case by case to decide.