• A lot of outdoor survival “common sense” can get you killed:

    Moss doesn’t exclusively grow on the north side of trees. Local conditions are too chaotic and affect what side is most conducive to moss. Don’t use moss for navigation.

    Don’t drink alcohol to warm yourself up. It feels warm but actually does the opposite: alcohol opens up your capillaries and allows more heat to escape through your skin, which means you lose body heat a lot faster.

    Don’t eat snow to rehydrate yourself. It will only make you freeze to death faster. Melt the snow outside of your body first.

    Don’t assume a berry is safe to eat just because you see birds eating them. You’re not a bird. Your digestive system is very different from a bird’s digestive system.

    If you’ve been starving for a long time, don’t gorge yourself at the first opportunity when you get back to civilization. You can get refeeding syndrome which can kill you. It’s best to go to the hospital where you can be monitored and have nutrients slowly reintroduced in a way that won’t upset the precarious balance your body has found itself in.

    • Moss doesn’t exclusively grow on the north side of trees.

      My brain was like “why do people so desperately need to find moss that it not being on the north side would mean death?” Before remembering many people don’t know which way they are facing (or left and right) usually. (Also, I’m sure I’d do worse in an unfamiliar area)

    • Don’t eat snow to rehydrate yourself. It will only make you freeze to death faster. Melt the snow outside of your body first.

      Wait, how does that work? It seems like it should take the same energy to melt it either way.

      Also, do people not know every berry isn’t edible? Even here where not a lot grows, there’s plenty of decorative ones around that will give you the violent shits.

      • Ideally you’d use an external heat source to melt the snow so you’re not wasting your body heat on it (it’s also generally a good idea to boil water of unknown quality before drinking it to reduce the risk of getting sick, which would be especially bad if you’re lost in the wilderness). Failing that, I’ve also heard people recommend filling a water bottle with snow and putting it in between the layers of clothing you’re wearing so it’s not directly touching your skin, that way you don’t lose a bunch of heat really quickly.

  • Pretty much anything related to statistics and probability. People have gut feelings because our minds are really good at finding patterns, but we’re also really good at making up patterns that don’t exist.

    The one people probably have most experience with is the gambler’s fallacy. After losing more than expected, people think they’ll now be more likely to win.

    I also like the Monty Hall problem and the birthday problem.

  • The immune system is strong and defends your body against germs.

    The immune system works 100% of 50% of the time. Immunology is the best way to convince someone that it’s a miracle that they’re still alive. Anyways, get vaccinated. Don’t rely on your immune system to figure things out

  • To tilt your head back if you have a blood nose.

    This is no longer recommended advice, because you end up drinking the blood which causes vomiting.

    • Probably initially said by someone concerned about their carpet.

    Way to stop them is put ice over the back of neck, plug nose with tissue and clear clots each 2 mins.

  • Cold Air will make you sick.

    There are plenty of studies debunking it, and yet I still hear about it all the time.

    • They enlarged rt 3 near rt 95 in MA many years ago. It was getting backed up due to all of the people moving further out from Boston. I said “It will be full again in a few years.” Yup. It was moving well for a few years so everyone piled into that area because the commute was better and within a few years it was a traffic jam again.

  • That budgets for households, businesses, and goverments have much to do with each other

    Edit: fixed typo. ‘nd’ to ‘and’.

    • Hurr durr but the national debt is like a credit card and all debt is bad. China can just say pay up and we’re fucked.

      And other stupid shit my parents used to say.

      • China can just say pay up and we’re fucked.

        Yeah, them and what army? (Well, the PLA, but going into MAD and great power military strategy would be too much of a digression)

        A classical example of Westerners thinking human laws are laws of physics somehow. I assume Westerners, anyway. It’d be weird to hear this from anyone recently imported.

    • In all of my ecology classes they were super specific about re-framing that concept as “survival of the fit enough”

      You don’t actually have to be the best example of something to have your traits carried along, just good enough to consistently make it to reproductive age and then procreate.

      It helps explain a lot of weird survival mechanisms - it doesn’t have to be the best way to do things but if it consistently works, then it’s good enough. Like the old saying “if it’s stupid, but it works, then it’s not stupid”

  • Less tax is better.

    No saying that taxation as it currently exists it optimal, but any decent assessment of how to improve things requires a lot of nuance that is nearly never considered by most people.

    • Nuance is boring, voting and/or complaining is easy.

      I mean, people are right about slimy politicians too, but they never seem to consider that it’s them that keeps electing those people.

      • but they never seem to consider that it’s them that keeps electing those people.

        How so?

        If one doesn’t vote, a slimy politician still gets elected.

        If one does vote, in most elections they can only choose from a small group of people who probably fail to represent them, and even if there is a reasonable option, they probably won’t win the vote anyway.

        The system is rigged, when it comes to voting there usually* isn’t a correct option. Our political voice must exist outside of elections.

        (I say usually, because a few elections are better than other, but generally speaking at a federal level, it’s slime no matter how you vote)

        • and even if there is a reasonable option, they probably won’t win the vote anyway.

          See, this is it right here. Anyone can run, but nobody can win without being slick and two-faced. The idiot vote is the largest block. If you get involved it’ll be obvious pretty fast.

          (I say usually, because a few elections are better than other, but generally speaking at a federal level, it’s slime no matter how you vote)

          So, you’re assuming we’re all American here. This applies to every democracy, including my own. In America, just add a probably terminal deadlock problem in on top of that.

          • but nobody can win without being slick and two-faced

            And don’t forget ‘rich’, or more importantly, supported by the rich. A national-scale campaign requires resources that a typical organization can’t gather, and to win without such a campaign is miraculous in most systems.

            So, you’re assuming we’re all American here.

            Nah, like you said it applies to most democracies, even if America is an extreme example of these universal trends.

            • And don’t forget ‘rich’, or more importantly, supported by the rich. A national-scale campaign requires resources that a typical organization can’t gather, and to win without such a campaign is miraculous in most systems.

              Well, in countries like mine there’s donation limits (with teeth). Middle class people are the ones you pursue for financing. That’s not really the issue so much as the majority of voters that barely know what they’re voting for - and soundbites or a personal hearty hello at a local event work wonders on them, while actual honesty or competence has little effect.

              • Well, in countries like mine there’s donation limits (with teeth).

                Refreshing to hear!

                That’s not really the issue so much as the majority of voters that barely know what they’re voting for

                I haven’t looked into this but I’m tempted to believe that immediately. Election awareness is amazingly low, even among people who do have strong political beliefs.

                • Oh man, I’ve knocked on so many doors where people named the party they were definitely voting for, but didn’t know which level of government the election was on for. Like, they think they’re voting for mayor when it’s actually a federal election, for example.

                  That’s kind of extreme, but the fact it’s not rare shows you the level of actual engagement there is. I’ve come to consider public elections as more of a safety valve for when things veer into actual corruption, and am not so sure direct democracy is a good idea at all, anymore.

  • Folk idioms that contradict each other are my favourite. For example, “the cream rises to the top” vs. “it’s not what you know, it’s who you know”.

    • I like to try and combine these to see what kind of reactions I get.
      The cream rises to who you know.
      The squeaky wheel gets hammered down.
      He who laughs last, comes around.
      Great minds killed the cat!

  • The most vulnerable will be hit the hardest.

    1. Countries are rich because they have free markets.
    2. Tariffs are a good thing and competition is for losers.
    1. No one deserves a handout, as money should be earned.
    2. Large companies deserve a giant economic stimilus, because if we don’t, our economy will crash.
    1. Being spied upon by your government or foreign governments whom I worship is okay, because I’ve got nothing to hide.
    2. Outsiders that sells goods that can be used to spy obviously and should be barred from all markets forever because they’ll definitely spy on you and spying is wrong.
    1. If you feel threatened by another country, a pre-emptive strike should be allowed.
    2. You don’t mess with the sovereignty of a nation. It’s sacred and should be left intact.
    1. Police should always be allowed to use overwhelming force and their actions should be lauded
    2. You should have the right to protect yourself using firearms against tyranny as governments in general are never to be trusted.
    • 1 year

      Is the goal to point out contradictions in the pairs you gave?

      • The goal is to show that nonsense espoused as common sense usually comes in pairs.

        That way, the liar can hoodwink you into any direction he/she wants you to.

  • we need more working powers to keep our wealth and our standard of living up. obviously, as things are crumbling around us, this means we don’t put in enough effort to maintain things, and more hands would help.

    that is a false thought. The labor market is regulated by supply and demand. That means, fewer workers lead to higher wages and a higher quality of life. It might seem paradoxical, but having a smaller workforce means people in the country will be able to afford more stuff.

    That is especially important as people discuss the birth-rate, and immigration, in all countries, also in the US and in Europe. People say things such as “women have 1.6 children on average, which means our population is declining, and obviously that is the reason why our quality-of-life seems to be going down as well”. However, the opposite is true. As automation takes over and well-paying (and meaningful) jobs are eroded, having fewer people around doing all the work actually drives wages up, and leads to an improved quality-of-life.

    • The labor market is indeed regulated by that supply and demand. That is a foregone conclusion. However, that doesn’t guarantee necessarily higher wages and thus higher quality of life, proportionately speaking.

      That itself is a struggle over whether “general profit”, after accounting for wages, is reinvested for the social needs, such as housing, food and water, education.

      Assuming that “general profit” (savings) + wages (needed for laborers’ means of subsistence) = value created.

      And assuming wages are sufficient enough for higher quality of life.

      But put into the equation the landlords, the shareholders, industrialists that dominate our world by virtue of owning the property that shapes it, who want to depress wages, if it means more “general profit”, and direct their savings towards more capital accumulation

    • that putting the thermostat up higher will heat the house up quicker (edit: I have in mind a bog standard UK home thermostat)

    • that sugary sweets make kids act “hyper”

    • that the moon’s apparent size is due to how close it is to earth (same for seasons and the sun)

    • that your base metabolic rate slows as you age and is primarily responsible for you putting weight on in middle age

      • that sugary sweets make kids act “hyper”

      Do you happen to have a source for that? Coz I have witnessed kids act like a horde of wild monkeys on crack right after eating dessert on multiple occasions.

  • 1 year

    Pressing the crosswalk button over and over will make the light change faster.