• AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Is it also lazy to learn Roy G. Biv to know the color spectrum instead of learning all the physics and optical properties behind that?

    Or what about My Very Elderly Mother Just Served Us Nine Pickles to know the planets instead of learning orbital dynamics and astrophysics?

    Christ man, it’s a mnemonic device for elementary schoolers.

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      Those two things are memorisation tasks. Maths is not about memorisation.

      You are not supposed to remember that the area of a triangle is a * h / 2, you’re supposed to understand why it’s the case. You’re supposed to be able to show that any triangle that can possibly exist is half the area of the rectangle it’s stuck in: Start with the trivial case (right-angled triangle), then move on to more complicated cases. If you’ve understood that once, there is no reason to remember anything because you can derive the formula at a moment’s notice.

      All maths can be understood and derived like that. The names of the colours, their ordering, the names of the planets and how they’re ordered, they’re arbitrary, they have no rhyme or reason, they need to be memorised if you want to recall them. Maths doesn’t, instead it dies when you apply memorisation.

      Ein Anfänger (der) Gitarre Hat Elan. There, that’s the Guitar strings in German. Why do I know that? Because my music theory knowledge sucks. I can’t apply it, music is all vibes to me but I still need a way to match the strings to what the tuner is displaying. You should never learn music theory from me, just as you shouldn’t learn maths from a teacher who can’t prove a * h / 2, or thinks it’s unimportant whether you can prove it.

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          Nothing. And that’s why people don’t write equations like that: You either see

               4
          6 + ---
               2
          

          or

           6 + 4
          -------
             2
          

          If you wrote 6 + 4 / 2 in a paper you’d get reviewers complaining that it’s ambiguous, if you want it to be on one line write (6+4) / 2 or 6 + (4/2) or 6 + ⁴⁄₂ or even ½(6 + 4) Working mathematicians never came up with PEMDAS, which disambiguates it without parenthesis, US teachers did. Noone else does it that way because it does not, in the slightest, aid readability.

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            3 months ago

            But +, -, *, and / are all binary operators?

            As far as I know, the only reason multiplication and division come first is that we’ve all agreed to it. But it can’t be derived in a vacuum as that other dude contends it should be.

            • But +, -, *, and / are all binary operators?

              No, only multiply and divide are. 2+3 is really +2+3, but we don’t write the first plus usually (on the other hand we do always write the minus if it starts with one).

              As far as I know, the only reason multiplication and division come first is that we’ve all agreed to it.

              No, they come first because you get wrong answers if you don’t do them first. e.g. 2+3x4=14, not 20. All the rules of Maths exist to make sure you get correct answers. Multiplication is defined as repeated addition - 3x4=3+3+3+3 - hence wrong answers if you do the addition first (just changed the multiplicand, and hence the answer). Ditto for exponents, which are defined as repeated multiplication, a^2=(axa). Order of operations is the process of reducing everything down to adds and subtracts on a number line. 3^2=3x3=3+3+3