A 21-year-old tourist has described the horrendous treatment he allegedly received after being denied entry to the USA due to a meme depicting JD Vance as bald being found on his phone
- 9 months
This not only has been going on awhile, it’s worse than it sounds.
A French scientist was denied entry at the border earlier this year, in March, after officers unearthed messages criticising Trump on his phone.
Mikkelsen explained: “They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone.”
- XLE@piefed.socialEnglish9 months
Any idea if these threats are actionable? He’s not a US citizen to just fine or imprison.
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They have “deported” dozens of US citizens at this point. Usually, being a non-citizen makes you more vulnerable to arbitrary bullshit at the border, whereas if you’re a citizen you can stand up much more so for your rights if they’re trying to push you into something illegal, but as of this year it’s starting to matter less and less.
Everything is actionable once the rule of law collapses. At this point, if you’re crossing the border, you’re in danger of whatever they want to do to you.
solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
9 monthsi think this is a concept that a lot of people are having a hard time grasping: laws are meaningless if no one enforces them. this 100% applies both to laws meant to protect you, AND laws meant to punish those who are harming you
On the other hand his actions are not regulated by law or by any clearly formulated code of behaviour. In Oceania there is no law. Thoughts and actions which, when detected, mean certain death are not formally forbidden, and the endless purges, arrests, tortures, imprisonments, and vaporizations are not inflicted as punishment for crimes which have actually been committed, but are merely the wiping-out of persons who might perhaps commit a crime at some time in the future.
-1984
- 9 months
There’s neither even a rhyme nor reason to Trump’s fascism (or to fascism in general). But it does correlate with the observation that they are fantasists. They do things out of whim and emotions, disregarding expert advice and opinions. Any promulgation of fascism will eventually lead to its own downfall, because they live in a fantasy world where they believe that their will alone could shape reality; ignoring the basic common sense that reality could never be altered to one’s desires.
- 9 months
Depressingly, SCOTUS has ruled that you really don’t have the same rights at border crossings as you do once you’ve passed through.
This applies to citizens as well as foreign nationals.
DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
9 monthsThis can’t be true because conservatives always cry about free speech.
If this is true then that means conservatives are massive hypocritical assholes.
No_Bark@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
9 monthsThe United States is such a shithole country lol
No one should travel there.
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All my plans involving the US have been canceled for the foreseeable future. Fuck that place and Russia too.
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Um excuse me, who else can defend peace and freedom and democracy? They make all the best weapons!
Somebody invite the Trisolarans
They always had. The US border has this special exemption to the constitution that some of the normal protections don’t apply.
If you are a citizen, they (legally speaking) can’t deny you entry, but can jail (detain) you for 48 hours and seize all your belongings, and put your on a no-fly list if they wanted to.
If you are not a citizen, they could deny you entry on top of all that.
This was always the case in previous administrations, its just that in previous administration, they weren’t this insane.
- 9 months
Well too bad for me, my memes will need go away and my message history with my sister and friends on signal too
Really compromising
If it can be unlocked through biometrics yes, according to SCOTUS
ALWAYS use a passcode, you cannot be compelled to divulge those
you cannot be compelled to divulge those
They can deny entry.
Even for US citizens, they could still detain you for 48 hours, seize all belongings, and put you on a no-fly list.
- XLE@piefed.socialEnglish9 months
Sorry for the mediocre source, but it looks like it got its facts and translation right.
- 9 months
imagine going on holiday in a country where they check your phone for memes
seeing the grand canyon seems cool but it can wait until that lunatic and his friends are gone
- 9 months
I thought this was the onion but its real… :)
It seems the mentality of the United States rulership have shifted back to the dark ages.
I wonder if accusing people of being witches is next.
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I wonder if accusing people of being witches is next.
wouldn’t be surprised
Microw@piefed.zipEnglish
9 monthsKeep in mind that TSA searching peoples’ phones was already policy under the last few administrations. Which is part of why I wasnt interested in traveling there even before the lunatic.
- 9 months
That should be against privacy laws in some countries and considering you can sue people from outside the US into the US court because of US rules it would make sense to have it the same with that human rights form one country exist in other countries. Sadly the world isn’t built ontop of logic.
- TrippaSnippa@aussie.zoneEnglish9 months
I have never had my phone searched for memes (or at all, for that matter) when entering China.
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China also has horrific human rights abuse and rampant organ farming/trafficking.
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Uh huh, because there’s no genocide happening in or helped by America.
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So you’ve got two genocidal states, one has healthcare (that actually does apply to Uyghurs because it’s a cultural genocide/slavery thing not an extermination) and the other wants to start WW3.
Why is the first a shit hole comparable to America? They’re clearly different tiers of fascist states. Everyone not a fascist state>China>Shitholes like America
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I had one say they preferred Trump to Hilary because “at least he is helping the USSR expand” so maybe
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Tankies? They are looking for red kind of fascism, not fascist kind of fascism.
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Same thing i asked the other guy who posted this.
Do you have a source that isn’t a tabloid? The only other sources i found were other tabloids.
I’m sure horrible shit is happening but tabloids aren’t news. They are meant to get an emotional reaction via mistruths and exaggeration. And you having a one day old account makes this even more suspect.
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It was reported first by Nordlys, a local newspaper based in Tromsø, and then picked up by ofher Norwegian media. The story is most likely true.
Stay out of that shithole. Nobody should be giving the US tourist dollars
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See - this is the thing with people going on about how its so oppressive in countries outside of “The West” where they will arrest people for insulting their king on Facebook or some shit.
We are no better. I’m not American but Britain does the same kind of shit. Read some declassified police case files, the cops pick on weird shit on people’s phones.























