A 21-year-old tourist has described the horrendous treatment he allegedly received after being denied entry to the USA due to a meme depicting JD Vance as bald being found on his phone
Our leaders are NOT Snowflakes or Emotional!
Or else!
This not only has been going on awhile, it’s worse than it sounds.
A French scientist was denied entry at the border earlier this year, in March, after officers unearthed messages criticising Trump on his phone.
Mikkelsen explained: “They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone.”
Any idea if these threats are actionable? He’s not a US citizen to just fine or imprison.
They have “deported” dozens of US citizens at this point. Usually, being a non-citizen makes you more vulnerable to arbitrary bullshit at the border, whereas if you’re a citizen you can stand up much more so for your rights if they’re trying to push you into something illegal, but as of this year it’s starting to matter less and less.
Everything is actionable once the rule of law collapses. At this point, if you’re crossing the border, you’re in danger of whatever they want to do to you.
i think this is a concept that a lot of people are having a hard time grasping: laws are meaningless if no one enforces them. this 100% applies both to laws meant to protect you, AND laws meant to punish those who are harming you
On the other hand his actions are not regulated by law or by any clearly formulated code of behaviour. In Oceania there is no law. Thoughts and actions which, when detected, mean certain death are not formally forbidden, and the endless purges, arrests, tortures, imprisonments, and vaporizations are not inflicted as punishment for crimes which have actually been committed, but are merely the wiping-out of persons who might perhaps commit a crime at some time in the future.
-1984
There’s neither even a rhyme nor reason to Trump’s fascism (or to fascism in general). But it does correlate with the observation that they are fantasists. They do things out of whim and emotions, disregarding expert advice and opinions. Any promulgation of fascism will eventually lead to its own downfall, because they live in a fantasy world where they believe that their will alone could shape reality; ignoring the basic common sense that reality could never be altered to one’s desires.
Depressingly, SCOTUS has ruled that you really don’t have the same rights at border crossings as you do once you’ve passed through.
This applies to citizens as well as foreign nationals.
This can’t be true because conservatives always cry about free speech.
If this is true then that means conservatives are massive hypocritical assholes.
Please be satire, please be satire…
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…Oh, fuck.
Sorry for the mediocre source, but it looks like it got its facts and translation right.
Oh, it’s real. It’s in other places as well.
The United States is such a shithole country lol
No one should travel there.
All my plans involving the US have been canceled for the foreseeable future. Fuck that place and Russia too.
Um excuse me, who else can defend peace and freedom and democracy? They make all the best weapons!
Somebody invite the Trisolarans
Do they have the right to search your phone ?
They always had. The US border has this special exemption to the constitution that some of the normal protections don’t apply.
If you are a citizen, they (legally speaking) can’t deny you entry, but can jail (detain) you for 48 hours and seize all your belongings, and put your on a no-fly list if they wanted to.
If you are not a citizen, they could deny you entry on top of all that.
This was always the case in previous administrations, its just that in previous administration, they weren’t this insane.
If it can be unlocked through biometrics yes, according to SCOTUS
ALWAYS use a passcode, you cannot be compelled to divulge those
you cannot be compelled to divulge those
They can deny entry.
Even for US citizens, they could still detain you for 48 hours, seize all belongings, and put you on a no-fly list.
yes.
Well too bad for me, my memes will need go away and my message history with my sister and friends on signal too
Really compromising
They can search your asshole, nevermind your phone.
Yes, of course they have. Without you being present, even.
But, but Elon told me comedy was legal now!
Same thing i asked the other guy who posted this.
Do you have a source that isn’t a tabloid? The only other sources i found were other tabloids.
I’m sure horrible shit is happening but tabloids aren’t news. They are meant to get an emotional reaction via mistruths and exaggeration. And you having a one day old account makes this even more suspect.
It was reported first by Nordlys, a local newspaper based in Tromsø, and then picked up by ofher Norwegian media. The story is most likely true.
US is China now.
China is no shithole
China has healthcare.
China also has horrific human rights abuse and rampant organ farming/trafficking.
Not if you’re a Uyghur
Uh huh, because there’s no genocide happening in or helped by America.
Not sure how that’s relevant, but I disagree.
So you’ve got two genocidal states, one has healthcare (that actually does apply to Uyghurs because it’s a cultural genocide/slavery thing not an extermination) and the other wants to start WW3.
Why is the first a shit hole comparable to America? They’re clearly different tiers of fascist states. Everyone not a fascist state>China>Shitholes like America
I’m glad you thoroughly understand the concept of “the lesser evil”
I have never had my phone searched for memes (or at all, for that matter) when entering China.
Tankies should be ecstatic.
I had one say they preferred Trump to Hilary because “at least he is helping the USSR expand” so maybe
Tankies? They are looking for red kind of fascism, not fascist kind of fascism.
That’s what the Heritage Foundation says too!
imagine going on holiday in a country where they check your phone for memes
seeing the grand canyon seems cool but it can wait until that lunatic and his friends are gone
I thought this was the onion but its real… :)
It seems the mentality of the United States rulership have shifted back to the dark ages.
I wonder if accusing people of being witches is next.
I wonder if accusing people of being witches is next.
wouldn’t be surprised
Keep in mind that TSA searching peoples’ phones was already policy under the last few administrations. Which is part of why I wasnt interested in traveling there even before the lunatic.
That should be against privacy laws in some countries and considering you can sue people from outside the US into the US court because of US rules it would make sense to have it the same with that human rights form one country exist in other countries. Sadly the world isn’t built ontop of logic.
JD Vance meme
No, that’s just how he looks.
That’s when he consumed a couch
See - this is the thing with people going on about how its so oppressive in countries outside of “The West” where they will arrest people for insulting their king on Facebook or some shit.
We are no better. I’m not American but Britain does the same kind of shit. Read some declassified police case files, the cops pick on weird shit on people’s phones.
New profile pic
If you are doing any international travel, leave your personal phone at home and bring a burner.
I have traveled the world, I just returned from China. Nobody has ever asked for my phone. This is crazy and it’s definitely not the norm and is not happening even in very strict regime countries. This is the new USA.
It’s not the norm but it does happen quite a bit, especially in authoritarian countries at land borders where the officials are always looking for a way to justify their jobs. It happened to me last year and that was in China, although in that case leaving not entering.
PS: for info, that was in Xinjiang at possibly the highest security border in the world. I showed the official a bunch of my mundane tourist photos, which was enough to have me on my way. Not a pleasant experience though.
