• Zorque@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I heard someone talking about a content creator they watch, and how that creator basically can’t take a vacation without losing tons of followers and potentially a major chunk of their income.

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      3 months ago

      A lot of creators will have a number of videos created ahead of time, so they can go on holiday and still have a steady release schedule.

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      3 months ago

      I hear this all the time but I struggle to see how it is true. How many people regularly trawl through their feed looking for creators who haven’t posted in X days and unfollowing them? It would be a minuscule number. I’m pretty darn selective with my follows and I think I’d do this once a year, tops.

      I think creators are conflating the everyday ups and downs of follower counts on their platform(s) as being something more. And I think the platforms themselves are encouraging this mentality because they need fresh content.

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        3 months ago

        As OP specified in another reply, they were talking about streamers specifically. And with them, big chunk of the income comes from Twitch subscribers, which is a monthly paid subscription. If you are willing to pay someone for it, you’ll notice pretty much immediately if they miss their scheduled stream and cancel it.

        For many other platforms what you said is true, I’m way more likely to unsubscribe from someone when they post a video and remind me I’m still subbed than when they take a break and fade out of my feed.

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      3 months ago

      Yep, this exactly. They can never clock out at the end of the day. It isn’t 8 hours of work and you’re done. You’re having to constantly try to innovate. Make tons of content, spend so much time editing, constant filming, constant planning. And if you deviate in your schedule, or upload some content that isn’t interesting, the algorithm punishes you and you may even get people that unsubscribe.

      Must be hell when you can’t afford to take a vacation from that content creator life. Can never really “switch off”. Plus the fact that less than 1% actually make it big, and it’s mostly based on luck plus years and years of determination.

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    3 months ago

    If your audience will disappear because you go away for 5 minutes you were probably not providing anything of value in the first place

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    3 months ago

    The responses in this thread are sick. So much vitriol for members of your own class who are just trying to make a living doing what they love and creating things.

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      3 months ago

      in the early days of the internet, I’m talking GeoCities days, I started what would be called a podcast about gaming. I recorded with windows sound recorder and a shitty Logitech desktop mic and then ran it through RealAudio to compress it to a downloadable format.

      I shared it with communities online like IRC and BBS’s.

      I got shit on so fucking much that I quit after my 6th cast. I received so much hate that I honestly thought of self harm.

      now, it wasn’t right that it happened. but, it happened decades ago before podcasting, live streaming, YouTube, content creators, and influencers were a “thing”. my point is, it is a danger of creating anything for the world. if you don’t have the skin for it, the world will eat you alive, so get over it.

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      3 months ago

      None of us can. It’s just a job, just they get even more shit on because they’re more public facing figures.

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    Boo hoo, losers. Your device has a power switch. Influencers have a warped and inflated sense of the value they create. They can stop at any time and use their skills in other ways.

    Making good content is hard, but ‘good’ content doesn’t have an expiration date. Shallow brain-rot content does and that’s what the algorithms reward.

    The entitlement that influencers have is nauseating. There are many creators out there laboring in near obscurity and producing useful content all the time for little or no compensation.

    They are tools for Zuck and fools for propping his platforms up. It sounds like a hard slog, but they can stop any time.

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      You’re making enemies of your own team. These people are creatives, doing a job they love, and a corporate algorithm forces them to destroy their work life balance to keep doing what they love. And you’re belittling them. You need a reality check, these people are not your enemy.

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        Nah, if you are feeding the Zuck, not my team. The principled creatives aren’t there.

        It sucks to try to make a living as a creative. But giving your efforts to support social media platforms controlled by the worst people is inexcusable. Zuck literally and provably helped the fascists gain power.

        The creatives I can respect create because they are compelled to. They work jobs and create when they can. They share their work on less shitty platforms and in actual real life.

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    My lord the amount of “I have a REAL job” in here is too damn high. I work 8 hours a night, 40+ hours a week, in an automotive plant. My job can be very stressful, and physically demanding. So what?

    I don’t sit here and whine about people that stare at their screens (IT, developers, etc) all day. Are they really doing any work? After all, they are not performing physical labor.

    How is it that different for people who create content? I’d argue that they do more work, as they have to set up, film, edit and market their work.

    See how silly this sounds? A job is a job. Unless you own your own business, you are making money for someone else.

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      You aren’t wrong. But being a social media influencer is something almost no one would accidentally fall into. People who do it intentionally are doing it to chase a dream of fame and fortune and glamor - but because there is a limited amount of attention in the world and it is highly concentrated, you are really rolling the dice on a dream if you decide to commit to it. There is a very high probability that even if you put your whole heart and soul into it and did everything perfectly, you will still never achieve much more financial success than a child’s lemonade stand.

      It’s basically the same thing as wanting to be a blockbuster film actor or a rock star or an NBA player. If you are struggling and unsuccessful… Well yeah, that’s exactly what everyone told you would happen. Go get a different job. And if you are successful and famous and making tons of money - “oh no, boohoo, it must be so hard to be successful beyond your wildest dreams.”

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        Maybe for the top tier influencers, but there are a ton of people making a reasonable living just by doing it what they enjoy. For example, strategy game streamers:

        • FlorryWorry is probably the most popular EU4 streamer and has won the tournament something like 7-years straight; he makes enough to go full time
        • NumotTheNummy is perhaps the best MtG Arena draft streamer, and has tons of subscribers (LSV honorary mention, who got famous for being a top-tier MtG pro tour competitor)
        • Hikaru Nakamura - #2 chess player in the world, has a very healthy following

        There are plenty more who are popular because of their skill at what they stream about and are competent enough at keeping people’s attention. If you’re the best, people will come to you, it’s not always just luck. A lot of people get there through luck, but a lot earn their way too.

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    Firstly, let’s call them what they are, hucksters.

    Secondly, I cannot think of anything I give a shit less about than their burnout at making internet videos of themselves.

    If you’ve talked yourself into a world where you must be on social media, you are absolutely fucked. Get out. now.

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    I currently scrub toilets for a living while I’m back at school for a mid-life career change. I work ten hours tonight, my feet are still a bit sore from my shift two days ago.

    Suck it up, buttercup, get a real job. I’m not sharing all of this to sound like I’m better, I’m sharing this to show what a significant chunk of people do for a living, Joe Jobs.

    Being a social media influencer isn’t a job for most people, it’s a vanity hobby.

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    If your “job” is to convince brainless zoomers to eat tide pods or convince them to try DIY plastic surgery with hammers, maybe burning out isn’t a bad thing. Maybe we’re just seeing nature healing itself.

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          You don’t understand, kids are really summoning satan with their dungeons and dragons books, and every grown up should be very threatened about it!

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          Like all horrible male “beauty trends” it comes from looksmaxxing forums where it was a joke but the people were highly autistic and actually did it. The same thing happens when it gets to tiktok. A bunch of people post about it knowing its a joke and people who struggle to understand its a joke get sucked in.

          To “normal” people its like yeah obviously this is stupid, but to someone whos extremely socially inept they view it as a real path to looking like that. I’ve not met someone who has done this one exactly but ive met people who have done insanely destructive things because of what they saw on the internet.

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          Children were never eating tide pods either

          Yes they were. Because some people really are that dumb.

          The same year, nearly 220 teens were reportedly exposed, and about 25 percent of those cases were intentional, according to data from the American Association of Poison Control Centers.

          So far in 2018, there have been 37 reported cases among teenagers — half of them intentional, according to the data.

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/01/13/teens-are-daring-each-other-to-eat-tide-pods-we-dont-need-to-tell-you-thats-a-bad-idea/

          And that’s just reported numbers for teenagers. I can almost guarantee you the number of idiots that ate one and didn’t know how to call poison control is much higher.

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            Did you see the part where only half of those ingestions were intentional?

            You would be freaking out about rainbow parties and snap bracelets in the 90s.

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              How does one unintentionally eat a tide pod? So you tell the guy when you’re checking in at the ER “Homie and I were just playing catch with a tide pod and I was yelling at cousin Mabel to get off the dang roof and it just dropped into my mouth and I swallowed. It was a one in a million shot doc. One in a million.”

              More likely they did it intentionally and didn’t want to admit to it to avoid embarrassment. That or one of their dumb buddies thought it’d be funny based on some Tiktok they saw so they dropped one into someone’s bowl of Doritos.

              Either way all I was doing was correcting a false statement you made about children never eating tide pods. Because they surely did.

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            Out of tens of millions of children, that’s nothing. It was pure fear mongering

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    This whole article is nothing but “waaaaaahhhhhh”.

    They should shut up and just enjoy doing something they’re having an easier time doing, than grinding your average 9-5 job. Do they really think they’re the only people on the planet?

    sniff sniff “It so hard to turn on a camera and make sure things look right and entertaining for my audience. I thought this was easy street but I don’t know how technology, algorithms or the internet works. I just expected money to come free-flowing into my account with as minimal effort as possible that reflects how many subscribers I account for. Woe is me!! By the way, don’t use ad-blockers for the amount of ads on my videos because I need all I can get!”

    Meanwhile, I work in a straining job where I come home, my knees feel weak, my right ankle is aching like fuck, I am mentally drained, I barely can even put together a thought process that tells me I should even have breakfast while fighting the urge to sleep while I try to have a fraction of what constitutes as a life. As well as work in a place, where I am almost always on threat of being fired for something petty because my management feels they have to have a bone to pick with me by fucking around with me and being snarky while doing it.

    And all you’re worried about is fucking metrics and algorithms. Shut up. Work a real fucking job. First-world problems. I swear the Guardian went out and picked the whiniest bunch of “content-creators” there is.

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      Meanwhile, I work in a straining job where I come home, my knees feel weak, my right ankle is aching like fuck, I am mentally drained, I barely can even put together a thought process that tells me I should even have breakfast while fighting the urge to sleep while I try to have a fraction of what constitutes as a life. As well as work in a place, where I am almost always on threat of being fired for something petty because my management feels they have to have a bone to pick with me by fucking around with me and being snarky while doing it.

      Why the fuck are you doing that to yourself? Get another job. It sounds highly unhealthy where you’re currently at.

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    You can’t turn off any job. We all are burning out in this bitch. At least you’re sitting at home making videos.