• WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    As intended.

    First they’re going to collapse the ad model by eliminating most clicks.

    Then they’re going to put all of the information they’ve been scraping from the now-bankrupt websites behind paywalls.

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      2 months ago

      Joke’s on them, I’ve already been working on that for decades. *pats ublock* This baby can bankrupt so many websites and I always hoped it could collapse the ad model completely.

      In all seriousness, it’s becoming increasingly clear that we’re eventually going to have to build a new, free internet out of the wreckage of this one once the corporations are done with it. Technically it’s already there, nascent but ever so slowly growing and taking root, hiding in plain sight. Like the so-called dark web of tor, it already exists in parallel to the existing structures of the internet. Call it the deep web, the indie web, nostalgia web, unsearchable web, I’ve heard countless terms and most of them aren’t terribly accurate, but the web doesn’t need ads and google search to exist, it never did. It just needs humans, which despite the best efforts of big tech many of us still are, communicating directly with one another and documenting our billions of lifetimes of diverse collective experiences and knowledge.

      We are the wealth of information in the internet. Corporations don’t own it. We are it.

      • WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 months ago

        Very much yes.

        I have this great visual image of the corporate web, marked by neon signs and billboards and holographic ads, populated entirely by bots talking to each other while the humans sneak away, giggling and shushing each other.

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    2 months ago

    The internet was never designed to exist in a capitalist hellscape. It was designed for the free sharing of information by people putting random servers on the network.

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      Technically it was invented by Xerox then developed for the military. The 1990s version of the internet was more akin to what you described but I wouldn’t say it was designed with that in mind.

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        I wouldn’t say it was designed with that in mind

        In a sense it very much was. Al Gore as a young congressperson was shown the military version (Arpanet) and then pushed a series of bills that expanded this to the civilian world and created what became knows as the Internet. His explicit goal was to create an “Information Superhighway” that would allow for the free exchange of - wait for it - information. This phrase (popularized by Gore but probably not originated by him) was so well-known in the '90s that it became a standard joke format: “{fill in the blank} Superhighway” was sure to get a laugh.

        Incidentally, during the 2000 presidential election cycle, Gore gave an interview where he said he “took the initiative in creating the Internet”, which was a perfectly true and reasonable statement for him to make. In fact, all he was doing was emphasizing an achievement that he was already well-known for. Months later, Bush advisor Karl Rove found this quote and mangled it into the “Al Gore claims he invented the Internet!” bullshit that so many people still think was real.

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        I think you’re both right, but one of you is talking about the internet, and the other is talking about the world wide web. Both technologies were intended to facilitate ease of access of information, which is incompatible with robber baronism.

  • Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip
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    I’ve googled several things recently, the AI shit really sucks! It’s fine if you’re looking for something basic, like translations of words and what not. But if it’s something more specific it’ll easily bullshit you and claim it’s correct.

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      Yeah not using Google but duck.ai gave me some claim about a product I was looking up that had some categories. I asked how many of category x and it said 11 but the product only had 11 in total. Oh yeah oops I have actually no idea how many of category x there is out of 11. Cool, people who trust it would have just wasted money.

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    2 months ago

    I’ve switched to startpage and have no complaints. Not that Google has deployed much of its latest crap in Europe, but it’s been shit for quite some time anyway.

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    Google pushed out competitors using partnerships only they could afford, then intentionally made search worse so people would see more ads.

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    I’m reading comments on arstechnica and seeing people mad at… what exactly?

    The reason I go to web search is to answer my questions. Now it’s given to me at once, without need to go anywhere. Is it sometimes hallucinating? Of course it is, but have you really 100% trusted information on the Internet before anyways? I haven’t.

    You say that ads driven websites are going to stop receiving money. But have you really liked ads driven websites? The same ones whose main incentive is to keep you on the website as long as possible or, in fact, wasting as much your time as possible to sell it to ad companies? The ones that were really worth visiting already changed their business model.

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    Enshittify search to the point of it being nearly useless. Then introduce a little bot to find it for you. Predictable.

  • cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 months ago

    Some websites now are really shit. Won’t load unless you allow JavaScript from 15 different domains, cookie consent, terrible privacy etc.

    If I want to know things like what 10 kmpl in mpg, I often use DDG snippets.