Learned about it from this episode of the Team Human podcast
But what is happening in Hong Kong is they come up with a slogan, which is translated as Do Not Split, which is, we know that some people are willing to be confrontational with riot police.
And when they are, that’s going to cost the state in terms of not only resources, but it’s going to cost the state in terms of political capital and support. And we know that there are some people who are not willing to do that. And we are going to abide by the protocol of Do Not Split, which means that we’re not going to criticize them openly, and they’re not going to criticize us openly.
If we’re the pacifists, we’re not going to have them criticize us for being sort of like, I don’t know, limpid or flaccid or not courageous or whatever. And we’re not going to criticize them for being more confrontational. And the thing is that the support is also tacit.
It’s not like they have to come out and tell the media, oh, we approve of our more sort of confrontational colleagues. They just keep quiet. They just keep quiet.
Understanding that a range of tactics is probably going to be necessary. Nobody really knows what’s going to work. But if everybody’s pushing back against a particularly violent state, then everybody’s really on the same side.
And fascism respects neither. We didn’t sternly write letters to Mussolini’s death, did we? We didn’t protest Hitler to death? No, you pacifist dumb fucks, we killed them to death.
Passivist or pacifist, it doesn’t matter, both have no place when addressing fascism.
This is why it has come crawling back from the roach-infested shadows globally in Europe and the USA, we stopped at killing their leadership instead of also punishing their supporters.
My wife’s grandfather considered himself a pacifist. He drove a tank as part of the liberation of France. He also sometimes snuck up on Nazi positions, punched their lights out, and hauled them back as prisoners.
In the years before he died, he was known to say “what do you mean don’t punch Nazis? What else are they good for?”
I was honored to be a pallbearer at his funeral.
Pacifism can be flexible, which I personally think is the only way pacifism makes sense.
“He also sometimes snuck up on Nazi positions, punched their lights out”
What you just wrote is literally and factually the polar fucking opposite of pacifism.
Not to him. His viewpoint is that he wasn’t going to kill them, but there’s flexibility beyond that.
I think it’s time for you to step aside and read the definition of pacifism and try again: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifism
There are many versions of pacifism, just like there are many versions of leftism. Maybe step aside and have a broader view?
There were plenty of pacifists that stood up to fascists.
The White Rose is a good example of one. The members were executed by guillotine.
Killing kids looks horrible and no doubt cost the nazi some political capital. Nonviolent resistance works just as well as other types. Non-violent and violence working together can produce great things.
Oi, stop criticizing other leftists. Read the top level post again.
I’m disabled as fuck and likely won’t be chinning any fascists anytime soon, but I’m damn well gonna cheer when others do.
Being disabled does stop morbidly obese MAGA from practicing at the range.
I’m also disabled and still make time to shoot. Tired of reading excuses from my team on the Left.
And there’s NOTHING wrong with being critical of your own team. You all just aren’t used to people being critical of you, because we are infested with people who are always pearl-clutching pathetic losers.
When you discredit publicly to the point you tarnish reputations to the point of changing electoral decisions that help fascists win, you’re complicit in that.
We can hold ourselves to account to be better, but being more critical of like minded folk than fascists is dumb. We apply pressure where it’ll be effective, such as primaries or selection contests so the best candidates win.