On Discourse and Decentralisation
The Community Group for #ActivityPub is drafting an open letter calling for respect and collaboration between the people working on the different protocols in the open social web.
I’m signing the letter, and with it, I have some thoughts regarding discourse, decentralisation and why I think this space matters.
I’m reading this as “be nice to the Bluesky guys, because we have a bigger problem to deal with.”
That’s fine, I’m not inclined to be mentally ill at strangers on the internet.
But I’m also not going to call it decentralized when it’s meaningfully not, and I’m going to keep an eye on where their money comes from.
We have a common enemy in government control.
But if you’re going to be my friend, I need you to not lie to my face.
Yeah, I’m seeing a lot of misdirection and reframing of the situation here. Should we be “cool” and “respectful”, yes, absolutely. Should we all agree ATP is a good idea and worth adopting? Absolutely not. It should be rejected until they figure out how to properly decentralize. As of now the protocol itself seems to fundamentally require so many resources that it disqualifies it from any sort of meaningful discussion. I hope to be wrong. Maybe as they inevitably grow to become excessively shittier, some other hosts will step in.I was wrong.
Cannot that be done for 40$ per month? https://whtwnd.nat.vg/bnewbold.net/3lo7a2a4qxg2l
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Edit: for an example on how to create an account: https://feddit.org/post/18642154/8860187
I cant even see this text without agreeing to a ToS and I’m simply not doing that.
I’m not at all an expert on the subject, but I would ask: if it’s so easy and cheap, why aren’t more people hosting them? As far as I can tell there are only a handful in existence.
Piefed is cheap to host too, but only a few people host instances.
I just learned about Blacksky which is independent from Bluesky but uses ATProto
PieFed is much newer, has many many MANY fewer users, and seems to already have many more instances.
Piefed also has different features than Lemmy, which incites people to start instances.
About the number of ATProto PDS and relays, didn’t you already got a much larger list in this comment? https://feddit.org/post/18498447/8800070
https://github.com/mary-ext/atproto-scraping
By the way, Whitewind requires you to accept their privacy policy just to read a blog post.
This is what it looks like.
You can use this website to bypass it.
Here is a link for the blog post you just cited.
You could paste the link into pdsls.dev as well to see the record :P
https://pdsls.dev/at://did:plc:44ybard66vv44zksje25o7dz/com.whtwnd.blog.entry/3lo7a2a4qxg2l
direct PDS link https://pds.robocracy.org/xrpc/com.atproto.repo.getRecord?repo=did%3Aplc%3A44ybard66vv44zksje25o7dz&collection=com.whtwnd.blog.entry&rkey=3lo7a2a4qxg2l
I didn’t know you could do this.
Amazing lol