Is there something we can do to effectively oppose that shit ?
misleading headline, this isn’t a list of countries in which the law will (if it passes) be different (it won’t be, it’s an EU law, so will be the same in all EU countries), it’s a list of countries that currently support/oppose the law
It isn’t misleading (that’d be a technically true headline, which this isn’t). This is a downright lie, or as some might say, “fake news”.
Countries which support the implementation of Chat Control:
Spain, Romania, Portugal, Malta Lithuania, Hungary, Ireland, France, Denmark, Croatia, Cyprus, and Bulgaria.
Countries that are undecided:
Belgium, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Slovakia, and Sweden.
Countries which oppose Chat Control:
Slovenia, the Netherlands, Poland, Luxembourg, Germany, Estonia, Finland, the Czech Republic, and Austria
“This list is outdated, see here fightchatcontrol.eu”
Wow, this is bad. I thought this was over when Germany chose not to support it. Apparently not!
Show is not over until the fat lady sings.
I’m missing a bit the fact that this is not a law yet. This is the position of the commission, which the parliament will then need to approve and has to get past the ECHR as well most likely.
If this came to Canada, my sister and I will be using Briar.
It’s kind of unclear what “voluntary” means. Is it voluntary for countries to enforce? Is it voluntary for companies to scan chats?
The later. However, they could still be fines for not doing what is needed to reduce “the risks of the of the chat app”, whatever the fuck that can mean when talking about illegal.content
I thought it was the latter.
In that case, is there any change? Companies could already do that if they wanted. Many of them already did.
Welp guys, looks like I’m moving to [insert country without that sh*t] (TBD). Or atleast my router is.
The implementation is client-side, so this wouldn’t work. It forces all apps to have a client-side backdoor.
just use signal
Or Molly (alternative and more secure FOSS Android app for Signal), or Session or SimpleX.
And when they pull out of Europe because they won’t comply?
It is available in fdroid
won’t help when their servers block access from EU
Write your own E2E encrypted peer-to-peer chat app (nobody has got time for that) or use some that doesn’t care about the law (pretty risky if it’s not open source, I doubt they’ll survive for long in the open), I guess
