I mean honeymoon phase as in the initial period of dating rather than an actual honeymoon
Obnoxiously making out with me in public
Holding in the farts.
My partner and I have been farting in front of each other since the very first date. We think it’s hilarious.
Going to separate houses for the night.
Getting drunk and going out with friends. Just generally we started spending more time just us at home.
Sex
That’s… not a great development. Physical intimacy is generally an important part of most relationships.
You should look into passionate love vs companionate love, and the 7 year ick.
Physical intimacy going down is quite normal and healthy over time but everyone has their own timing and rate at which it goes down
i mentioned this to another person but I’d suggest watching this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU3GOKOEKaU
i personally think a lot of people experience a slow down in sex because they don’t understand how a sex drive in the opposite gender even really works and sometimes they don’t even understand their own sex drive. she has a ton of videos hopefully you find some of them helpful.
not trying to attack you just wanted to provide a reason why physical intimacy goes down over time.
This is bullshit honestly. I have been married for almost 30 years. For 27 years we had sex pretty much everyday. Then my wife had to get her ladybits rearranged by a doctor due to a bladder prolapse and went through early menopause.
We still have regular sex, but not everyday anymore.
When research is done, there usually is a margin of error. None of what I say is my opinion but based on studies that I mention.
Don’t know why Im getting downvoted.
For the record, I had no part in that research nor participated (its like decades old btw) so please don’t ask further questions or disagrements or personal anecdotes. I just shared some pointers for people who are interested to learn more about this. Im not there representative in any way shape or form
I didn’t down vote you, and I wouldn’t take it personally.
I was just offering the typical anecdotal experience challenging misconception. This is probably worth less than good research.
I’m sure understanding those things helps, but it’s not an easy thing to hear for people stuck in an imbalance in the relationship.
Sure doesn’t feel “healthy” when you feel your needs aren’t being met, especially when you get told the problem is you because you want more than they are willing to give.
“A big part of my love language is physical intimacy. When my partner doesn’t reciprocate any interest in it, despite every attempt on my end to communicate my needs, it makes me feel unloved. I’m hurting and you’re going to tell me it’s my fault?”
Look, it’s very easy to casually give advice like this when you aren’t stuck in what feels like a fundamentally broken relationship.
just a thought, take a look at this ladies video. it’s aimed at both men and women to help figure out why intimacy either isn’t there or has slowed way down.
i highly recommend having your partner also watch that video along with a ton of her other videos. she is really really good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU3GOKOEKaU
i hope it helps you and your partner.
I just shared some interesting studies and trends that I once read about when I was going through similar difficulties myself. Your case definitely feels unhealthy, im so sorry you have to go through this.
If you’re going to tell people to look into the lens of romantic*/companionate (and all the other ones you didn’t mention: nonlove/liking/infatuation/empty love/fatuous love/consummate love) you should at least give them some starting points.
- Triangle theory of love: Robert Sternberg (1987, 2006)
- Brain regions; attachment/commitment vs sexual desire: Diamond (2004), Aron et al. (2005), Xu e al. (2011)
- Lust/attraction/attachment, dopamine/serotonin influences: Helen Fisher (2006), Aron et al. (2008),
- More influence of dopamine/serotonin: Ackerman (1994, p. 165)
- Critiques of simplifying love: Fehr (2006)
- Some more neurotransmitters and hormones: Macdonald & Macdonald (2010), Hill et al. (2009), Gouin et al. (2010), Ditzen et al. (2009), Theodoridou et al. (2009)
- Loves sternberg didn’t consider: Berscheid (2010), John alan lee (1988),
- Decreases in romantic love: sprecher & regan (1998), Tucker & aron (1993), Gupta & Singh (1982) and the followup D. Myers (1993), Walster & Walster (1978), Abhmetoglu et al (2010), Call et al. (1995), Klussman (2002)
- Non-decreases in love: Acevedo et al. (2011),
Personally, I would really, really recommend the textbook Intimate Relationships by Rowland S. Miller to anyone who is curious about the subject. I had to go pull my edition off of the bookshelf to quickly throw out all the references above.
*because passionate love isn’t the category. The proposed idea was the triangle theory of intimacy, passion, and commitment, which led to the eight above categories----
Thats actually quite comprehensive list, i will also read them up. Thanks for the list!
I read one or two from your list and was still feeling they would bit too complicate for a casual reader here.
