• Lumidaub@feddit.org
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      And when they don’t qualify for any available jobs or there simply isn’t any work and thus no jobs anywhere because jobs don’t grow on trees, you give people the job of sitting at a desk for eight hours a day doing nothing while their mental health crumbles away. Jolly good.

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        Wrong, you reduce the working hours so everyone can have jobs, 8 hours isnt necessary. USSR had the most worker favoring labour laws for a reason.

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          10 hours ago

          So the goal is simply to tick everybody’s “has job” box, not such unnecessary things as “earns enough to afford food and shelter” or “is fulfilled by job” (edit:) or even “has useful job”.

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            8 hours ago

            Because in soviet union you had food and shelter. No matter which job they did, idk what part if this is problematic or non understandable

            Perhaps you should read some marxist theory

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              If I understand correctly, you said that jobs should be mandatory even if they serve no purpose. However, Marxist theory argues differently. It calls for work that contributes to human betterment. When implementing this, some Soviet policies took an extreme approach. Authorities often prioritized statistics (for example, full-employment targets) and sometimes created make-work or nominal positions.(as mentioned in the messages above) As a result, policy often prioritized employment statistics over the actual human and social benefits of work.

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              I’d rather live out in the woods on my own than be forced to work a job that actively harms my mental health.

              And admittedly, I know too little about Marx but I’d be surprised to learn that he was in favour of mindless work for no purpose other than to tick that “has job” box.