• Matty_r@programming.dev
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    4 hours ago

    Wow, thats fucked. I hope Australia doesn’t decide to do this as well. This shit is happening so quickly at the moment

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      3 hours ago

      me too but i’m not overly optimistic. i don’t think there is a strong enough culture of anti-surveillance

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    5 hours ago

    if a phone is tied to a svc acct like a telco provider- age verification should be automatic as THAT provider cannot open an acct for a child.

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      I’m not in favour of any of the age restriction stuff UK government is doing.

      Good argument, but:

      Phones in the UK can be bought without a contract and untied to any network.

      Pay as you go SIM cards can be bought without a contract.

      Credit cards used to make purchases online require users to be 18 or over. Debit cards on the other hand can be issued to those under 18 (but a bank account will require evidence of ID, address, age). https://www.gohenry.com/uk/blog/financial-education/what-age-can-you-get-a-debit-card-in-the-uk

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        can a debit card be created by someone under 18? ie does a parent have to do it then give johnny a card? can a bodega owner sell a prepaid to a minor, and can prepaids be used?

        just wondering where up the chain the responsibility lies. i’m all for corps being held to task, but also parents. if i handed my kid a phone it was my responsibility.

        now he had phones that he acquired. i saw them. so i know it is largely irrelevant my thoughts on chain of concern.

        in short: this is a terrible tar pit of gov horseshit sold in the “protect the kids” camp but really is “build a bigger fascist state db…”

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          A parent can do the age verification captcha for Johnny. All of this is bullshit once they start thinking any of this will stop kids who have the help of an adult (actually, already is imo). Anyone ever hear of kids getting adults to buy alcohol for them in the past?

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    Mixed feelings about this.

    However, ethical questions aside, and from a purely legal conformation standpoint, if the phone validates the user is over 18 and passes only that info as a token to whatever application or website requests it, then it’s a good implementation. It means elimination of multiple validation requirements, minimal transfer of data to third parties, fewer sources holding personal data, etc. Whether it works that way remains to be seen.

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      6 hours ago

      I haven’t read this particular law. But one proposed in Colorado still requires service providers to look for other indicators of age and override the one reported by the OS.

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    > can’t have apps without an account
    > cave have an account without a loicense

    Will this finally kill off the “Apple is private enough” mantra I always hear?

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      Sideloading isn’t a real term - there is only loading a better OS than whatever spy-tech google is offering.

      You can’t “sideload” hardware you own - you just install whatever software you like and prefer

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        Jesus Tittyfucking Christ, yes it is. I’m not typing out “installing software from outside the Google Play Store” every time, so you can go away.