In a sensational turn of events in the fight against Chat Control, a majority in the European Parliament voted today to end the untargeted mass scanning of private communications. In doing so, the Parliament firmly rejected the error-prone and unconstitutional surveillance practices of recent years. Pressure is now mounting on EU governments to respect the MEPs’ vote and bury untargeted mass surveillance in Europe once and for all.
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- PokerChips@programming.devEnglish6 days
They’ve probably realized that American corporations which are ran by the Epstein class get to sift through all the data
- 6 days
Why have we been talking about EU chat control for years. How many time have this been voted on? and can people just keep popping up chat control if the previous one fail?
- FauxLiving@lemmy.worldEnglish8 days
Everything is temporary.
Political participation is a full-time job, keep the pressure on and the change will endure.
- Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish7 days
Finally some good fucking news. Now let’s make it so there’s no 2.0 3.0 etc constantly trying to sneak this in - we need to enshrine privacy into real laws.
8 daysYay Europe! Genuinely happy for you folks.
Maybe someday we’ll have freedom and privacy in the US :’)
- Big Baby Thor@sopuli.xyzEnglish7 days
Halt! You have gone below the mandatory threshold for nationally mandated jingoism. An ICE unit has been dispatched to your location to bring you to the RFK Right-To-Labour camp.
The beating will continue until moral improves.
- Tim@lemmy.snowgoons.roEnglish7 days
It’s definitely starting to feel like having your rights enshrined on unalterable tablets of stone, but which must be re-interpreted by a half dozen political appointees holding a seance with the founding fathers every few months, may not be the platonic ideal of governance that Americans are constantly telling the world it is.
- Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish8 days
Awesome
Can we now put that in some form of European constitution, pretty please with a cherry?
- 7 days
Or we put it on a timer and let it bubble up in some months to reevaluate it over and over again. Wouldn’t that be fun?
- Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish7 days
I wonder what all these anti-EU russian propaganda bots are going to use now to sow discontent against the EU… lol
- iglou@programming.devEnglish7 days
Of course. Nothing is black and white. This was a real issue, but still abused by anti-EU propaganda to weaken us.
- Squizzy@lemmy.worldEnglish7 days
Yes, but Denmark gave the opportunity to do so. We know we have enemies that wnt us divided, why bring such a stupid and controversial piece of legislation forward.
There should be blame put at their door for this, we know the trolls will troll that isnt new.
- ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish7 days
Probably pointing out the imperialism. It’s important to listen to your critics because there can be kernels of truth amongst the bullshit.
- themurphy@lemmy.mlEnglish8 days
Shit, I’ve heard so much fear mongoring about this for so long. Also on here.
The EU’s stance have never been anything other than no chat control. All everyone else have pointed out are proposals not even reaching the votes, or got voted down.
I get that you are afraid that the EU would do it anyway and pass the proposals. But they never did, and even if it got voted for today, it’s not even final and needs to go to the council who is openly against it.
But so nice that this is FINALLY put down.
- balsoft@lemmy.mlEnglish7 days
This is a really naive take - this amendment (which requires message scanning to be targeted) passed with a slim majority and could well have failed. In that case the existing mass surveillance (“voluntary scanning”) would probably keep happening at least until 2028.
The council meanwhile is overwhelmingly pro-message-scanning, and they (together with the commission) are the ones who are pushing to break e2e encryption. There will now be talks between the three institutions to decide on how to proceed. Sadly I expect that some “compromise” will be reached eventually.
It’s always better to be worried for nothing than not worried for something you didn’t pay enough attention to. Even if something fascist has no chance of passing, you should still resist it as loudly and as aggressively as possible, every single time.
- 8 days
Glad to know. I’d rather be overly cautious than overly careless about privacy, tho (looks across the Atlantic)
- hector@lemmy.todayEnglish7 days
Says the guy overlooking the other trojan horse of age controls being brought inside the walls. Your analysis is not so good.
- Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish7 days
That “trojan horse” is nothing but a paper tiger since age control will be managed in a completely privacy-friendly way. It is a non-issue. So that is why it is being “overlooked”
The check will send nothing more than a yes/no verification, and no other forms of identification.
And the information will be managed by a governmental institute that already has all that information.
- hector@lemmy.todayEnglish7 days
Jesus christ, you are a mark for some con artist with your naivety, no offense bro. Ha.
- Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish7 days
If you can’t understand the technology behind it, please refrain from calling other people names. It makes you look ignorant.
The EU is very privacy focused, as should be apparent with the post you are literally commenting on.
Your russian propaganda holds no power here. It didn’t work with chat control, and it won’t work with age verification either.
- hector@lemmy.todayEnglish7 days
gtfo. We all know what age control is in reality. You are playing us, for the oligarchy. Admit it!
- WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish7 days
If you can’t understand the technology behind it
it seems it is you, that have no idea how technology works. “open source” won’t solve being able to prove it does not send anything more it needs, when the implementations will be black boxes, with obfuscated verification software as is recommended by guidelines governmental projects intend to follow, as you can see in this very long thread
additionally, when the laws are accepted, what will you do if the promises turn out to be lies? protest by not using the internet anymore?
- 7 days
A lot of lemmings really hate the idea of democracy actually working somewhere in the world.
- Jiral@lemmy.orgEnglish8 days
The war over civil rights is continuing, no questions but this has been an important vote against the surveillance state ambitions.
In doing so, the Parliament firmly rejected the error-prone and unconstitutional surveillance practices of recent years.
Good news. However shouldn’t that also include online age verification?
- lb_o@lemmy.worldEnglish7 days
Good News! I was so afraid for our future in Europe.
Losing freedoms in our modern times will lead to just another authoritarian state, which will eventually lead to shit.
