cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/44781501
GrapheneOS will remain usable by anyone around the world without requiring personal information, identification or an account. GrapheneOS and our services will remain available internationally. If GrapheneOS devices can’t be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it.
That is the way. I just don’t understand open source projects that have no ties to regions where these dumb regulations exist blocking users from said region. Why is it your problem? If California (for example) wants to block your website, let it be their problem.
Agree. In fact, even projects that do have ties to those regions. Free & open-source is a stance.
Its the Chilling Effect. Fear of breaking a law (even if that law ends up not being applicable to you) is enough to scare people into complying with it. I’ve seen companies worry about GDPR that have no presence in the EU. Yes, the EU could still fine them, but they wouldn’t have to actually pay or even acknowledge it.
I wonder how many countries’ laws every Linux distribution violates by existing (e.g. North Korea, Turkmenistan) but these bozos at Arch Linux 32 don’t proactively block.
Well, we need to remember that Linux without the enterprise support wouldn’t be what it is today, and enterprise Linux thrives in the US, as much as we would like to deny it it is a fact.
They kinda need to complain or be fined to oblivion/forced to shut down operations. Multi-billion € enterprises don’t shut down operations for ideólogo reasons, sadly.
Are there any actual “GraphineOS” devices currently for sale anywhere?
(I know Motorola has some plans to roll out GraphineOS phones in the future, but this would probably complicate those plans if GraphineOS really prohibits Motorola from complying with laws.)
Outside of buying a supported Pixel device and flashing it yourself? Not that I’m aware of.
I was wondering the same. I have an extremely old Android that’s dying, and as soon as it does I’ll look for devices with that can run GrapheneOS. As @[email protected] says, it seems Pixel is the only one for now, and possibly one needs a slightly older model as well. That’s what I’ll look for.
Per their website, everything in the Pixel line apart from the 10a is supported. They will be supported as long as firmware and security patches are available. https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices
10a is supported, but flagged experimental:
https://grapheneos.org/releases
actually, some websites do sell pixels with grapheneos preinstalled, for example, https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/category/smartphone-tablet-4
1000% do NOT do that! the installation process is simple enough, why would you trust a random third party
Nitrokey is legit. But still, installing GrapheneOS is super easy and used hardware so cheap, you may as well just install it.
this service exists mostly for people who can’t purchase a pixel directly. nitrokey ships internationally
