• 6 hours

    I remember the last time gas prices went through the roof.

    I was riding my bike with my wife, going to the goshery store. A guy yelled out of his truck. I was like here we go…(im used to harassment on bikes). He said “Yeah! Stick it to em!”

    We were just poor at the time, but it made our day haha.

      • Where I live bikes have to block the traffic lane and you end up with a line of cars behind you a km long all going 15 in a 60 zone. Also cy lists get killed on these roads all the time so I see a bike less than once a year, but when I do, there are 100 cars behind them, or the bike is painted white in memorial to someone who died there.

        • Why do they have to block the lane? In some scenarios it is better to do this than not, but is your case a specific street or are all the streets that narrow?

          • In some states, cyclists legally get the entire lane. And when you’re going up to a low visibility intersection, you want to be in the middle of the road to maximize the angles that you’re visible

      • 4 hours

        In my local city, people die every year getting ran over on a bike. I knew a dr who didnt make it.

        I got close-lined off my bike once around 2017. Its part of the gang initiation to send someone to the hospital. I have a dent in my nose because of it.

        Its MUCH more dangerous in my area than most places though.

        • Maga land folks get very angry if you’re even driving a small car. Been screamed at and almost ran off the road just for existing in a small car. It offends their tiny pp. Or something.

          They REALLY hate bikes. Maybe because while they drive their 8000 lb dually quad cab thats never touched dirt or towed once, and hauls 1 person 99% of the time, they get mad at how efficient you are.

          And I have a truck too. For work. 8 ft box single cab manual with no radio or ac. Hauls construction material and tows trailers. A truck used for real work. Fuck bro trucks.

          • These are the people who don’t understand the meaning of Liberal as most lemmy commenters use it. It’s why it’s so dissonant.

          • 3 hours

            Yup… drove a small car back from college and two truck bros decided it’d be fun to sandwich my car between them. One rode my rear bumper with high beams, the other slowed down and rode the middle line so I couldn’t pass. Then he’d start slamming his brakes.

            • 2 hours

              I got furious reading that. I would’ve slammed the brakes and said goodbye to my car at that point. USA hits different man.

              • 52 minutes

                You’d have said goodbye to your head as well, because that lifted truck isn’t going into the rear of the small car… it’s going up and over.

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              • 3 hours

                it’s all fun and games until they pull out the real gun.

                I called the incident into the police station but it was before I had the dashcam so they just shrugged (and were probably blood related anyway).

                • Cops usually are the same ones driving BRo trucks, or its likely their kids like you said.

                  I do like the box of nails idea though. Keep a flimsy cardboard box of roofing nails in your door pocket for tail gating assholes :)

      • 2 hours

        One time someone shouted at me from their truck that they didn’t like my shirt. It wasn’t a sports shirt and didn’t have any logos at all. I think it was just baggier than they liked.

        Sometimes people just dont like things being different.

  • 5 hours

    The high gas prices may have added fuel to the fire, but the best news here is that used EVs are growing in popularity. That is a consequence of us finding out batteries don’t degrade as fast as we first imagined, which makes used EVs a lot more interesting.

    In the short term, that kills the market for new EVs, since used ones were so dirt cheap. In the long run, the resale value of new EVs will be much more stable, eliminating the last downside they had.

    (Obviously, many car makers saw the short term pain and gave up on the entire market. That is of course because car maker CEOs are absolutely brilliant people with foresight and strategic thinking. Just kidding: they occupy the only category of jobs that should absolutely be replaced by AI.)

    • I think there’s also a problem with the kinds of EVs everyone tried to sell.

      Tesla has seen legitimate success in making EVs a desirable luxury item. The Prius became something of a fashion statement among kale chip eating Californians in the 2000s because of its alleged economy, but it was still an economy car. It wasn’t that nice or luxurious. Tesla made cars people wanted to drive and be seen driving, with an all-electric powertrain.

      Pretty much everyone tried to copy that business model, making excessively fast luxury sport sedanover blobs with price tags that make car shoppers start muttering the word “depreciation.”

      Meanwhile, EVs tend to be the breeding ground for shit features everybody hates, like touch screen HVAC controls. Nobody wants to make a normal car that happens to be electric, which is what a lot of the buying public wants, but can’t find.

  • Trump may be the best thing to happen to energy since we discovered fusion.

    • unfortunately he’s decimating green energy in pretty much every other area. especially wind.

      • In the US

        FTFY. The long term outcome for this is that the world stops revolving around the US. For better or for worse

        • 4 hours

          When batteries one day gets lighter in weight, we might see hybrid planes at scale. Or even full electric for smaller flights.

          Then oil is really about to get abundant in some parts of the world.

          It’s already happening with cargo ships and trains. (Yes, I know they are much easier to transition to electric than planes)

    • 6 hours

      Fossil Fuels, sure. Those are also a finite resource we cannot rely on forever.

  • Who are these people that just go out and buy a car because gas prices went up? Does going into debt and paying interest on a loan make sense just to save a few bucks on gas?

    • My best friend is running around in a 2004 Chevy gas guzzler because its what hes got. Hes been thinking about getting a hybrid or electric. Now that gas is $5 a gallon and his work commute is 30 minutes both ways hes getting pushed to change vehicles. He doesnt even like his SUV

    • People whose car died at the worst time (because my personal situation) but also at the best time (because of the Iran war / oil situation). We really needed a new car fast and before our old car really broke down we were looking at either a hybrid or EV version of a certain car. The attack on Iran and its ripple effects simply tipped the balance towards the EV. I knew this bs wasn’t going to go away in a few days but we were fast enough to get one for the price it was before the war. I was already really looking forward to driving oil-free, so I think it’s been a good decision. No debt either.

    • We had been waiting for a while just because there was no reason to replace our car-payment-free household with a car payment before one of the vehicles crapped out…

      …But to be honest we’d wanted an EV for almost a decade at this point.

      I test drove my first EV back in maybe 2015… but couldn’t justify the price tag at the time to buy a new one, so we went with a cheap used car with high MPG and relatively low mileage overall.

      It’s just now that for the first time, it makes sense - not just from a “gas is expensive” standpoint, but from a “this might be cheaper than maintaining an older car (100k+ miles, 15+ years old)…” and also a “gas might not just be expensive but unavailable at some point given the supply shock currently wreaking havoc in other places besides the US” standpoint…

      We like to plan for contingencies whenever it makes sense to do so.

      We just bought our first ever EV - a used 2021 model with <50k miles for less than half the price of a brand new model… and it’s amazing.

      Already calculated that just in the few times we’ve charged it since buying - with gas being almost $4/gal… we have spent <$5 in electricity with just a little 12v wall adapter (level 1) at only 70% efficiency to add roughly 250 miles of range.

      That equates to roughly $40 in gas… even with the high-MPG car.

      On top of that, being able to start it in a parking lot or even an indoor garage to cool it down in the summer or warm it in the winter before having to get in or worry about filling an enclosed space with carbon monoxide, a quieter drive, and just more modern conveniences and safety features thanks to it just being a decade newer than our last vehicle made it seem like a somewhat sensible purchase for us, if not perhaps a little “overly pro-active.”

    • 6 hours

      They are probably people that were already looking or anbout to start looking for a new car and pivoted to EV based on current conditions.

      • Doesn’t take much research to conclude the used EV market values are driven by ignorance and are a bargain right now.

        A 3 year old Ioniq5 is less than half the price of new, $28,000 go poof. Buying new EVs at >$50,000 makes no sense , but buying slightly used EVs at $12K-$24K makes total sense.

        • 4 hours

          And even if the battery is degraded with maybe 5%, it’s still an amazing car.

          Lets say you needed to replace the battery one day anyway. You’ll have saved on every other reparation, because EVs dont have moving parts that breaks all the time like in old cars.

      • just goes to show how people overreact to gas prices. they could have bought a <$25k used EV last year and saved $4k with the EV tax rebate. $4k is equivalent to $33/month over 10 years.

    • Maybe. The average driver is spending just under $200 per month now on gas (14000 miles per year at 20mpg, gas $3/gallon - you can adjust numbers as you want, these are reasonable but some cars better fuel ecconomy) if you drive more than average it is possible to make payments on fuel savings in some cases.

      or in my case the old car was going to be replaced anyway. Paymets were a given, so saving over $100 a month in fuel was a nice bonus. There are a lot of people who are buying something different anyway who care about their budget.

    • The EV demand changes reflect the population that is currently looking for a new car (have the money and are willing to buy) and people were previously “on the margin”, those who weren’t looking to buy a car immediately (more like sometime in the next 6-18 months), but due to fuel price changes they have now moved into the first group.

    • I just got a used ev. I needed something else because my car was having issues that would be expensive to fix, and wanted an ev anyway, so the decision wasn’t at all motivated by gas prices, even though the timing was. I didn’t want to wait and have used car prices skyrocket to the point i couldn’t afford one.

    • 4 hours

      God how I miss living in an urban area. Until two years ago, I’d bike with my kids to their school every day. Where we are now, it’s 10 miles of deathtrap pavement away. ☹️ I wouldn’t feel comfortable riding most of it on my own, let alone with my kids.

      Fuck cars. Quality of life is so much higher when you don’t have to depend on them.

      • That’s rough. My place isn’t super bikable but it’s good enough and I made getting a place and a job close together a priority because I didn’t want to spend huge chunks of my life trapped in traffic.

      • E-bikes can really make long distances doable without having to take a shower by the time you get there, but not every place has infrastructure that will support that commute in a survivable way.

        If you can pull off living close to work, that’s huge too, but it’s not always an option unfortunately.

  • 5 hours

    Guy randomly stopped me to ask me how I like my Model 3 when I was getting out of it in a parking lot last week. First time that’s happened in like 6 years.