• First step to sending probes to Venus that survive more than a few minutes.

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    Once they hit temperatures of 200 degrees Celsius, most tend to fail.

    Is there a unit conversion error here? Or do I massively misunderstand what “most” means?

    200 F is 93 C so I’m going to guess unit conversion

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      Perhaps they’re talking about junction temperatures, but even then specialist components can only do 175 degrees C briefly.

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        Is “all” considered to be a subset of “most”?

        100% of processors fail, which technically is more than 50%

        • All processors are computer chips, not all computer chips are processors.

          ETA: The article seems to mention processors, but this appears to be a memory chip advancement.

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      My Ryzen 9 had a default boost limit of 90 °C, which caused a lot of stress to the rest of the cooling system in my PC but it didn’t seem to have any problem running like that for a few hours. (Fortunately you can crank it down to something a bit more sensible in the BIOS.) My laptop will spike briefly over 100 °C, but only for a second or two. I can see the ‘failure’ temperature being a bit higher, but 200 °C seems unreasonably hot.

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        Yeah, that’s kind of where my confusion comes from. 93C seems pretty low for a failure temp, my old AMD started throttling at around 90C, but I fully recognize that is pretty hot for a processor and “most” would fall below that. Unless they’re meaning temperature at the transistors most fail at 200C. I can definitely see a temperature sensor reading a few 10s of C different from the actual working interface of transistors, where 90C might mean the transistors are around 150C.

    • Too bad that most CPUs can run at up to 100°C and some even a bit higher. I think I read so.ewhere 125°C fpr some special OC cpu chips

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    That’s one way to solve the AI data center cooling issue. Of course it would make the data centers deadly to support staff, so I anticipate that will make it to market.

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      There’s a reason they run laptops on the ISS, space data centres are a pipe dream without power generation and all the other necessary infrastructure.

    • 700degrees would likely degrade the structures housing the chips. and would likely make it even more expensive.