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I took a quick look at the app (android one is still live) and it’s quite clear it will be abused for piracy. You can just stream any file straight from your device to the whole world, like twitch but without the faces. Apple probably gathered enough evidence prior to removal.
EDIT: It seems like Lemmy assumes I said this from user/moral perspective. I was talking about lawsuit and whether it would succeed.
EDIat2: Another thing I noticed - it has porn rooms and everyone’s google full handles (emails) and first name/surname is visible, with face image showing who’s watching the porn. It mostly seems to be guys from Pakistan and other countries with controversial laws, but essentially this is a huge privacy risk with serious potential for blackmailing operations.
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That’s not for Apple to determine. So many things can be used for piracy. That’s clearly the user’s responsibility. They role as stewards of the App Store is that the app does what it is supposed to do and not other nefarious things. What’s next, preventing torrent clients from running on the Apple platform, because some people use torrents to get their stolen porn?
Apple, YOU ARE NOT MY SUPERVISOR.
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You’re right, it’s not for apple, you, or the app developer to determine that - it will be the lawyers and judge. I sometimes feels like people speak here while being detached from the reality/living in their own little fediverse bubble.
Besides, speaking of torrents: https://www.theverge.com/news/767344/apple-removes-itorrent-altstore-pal-ios-marketplace
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I don’t think you ever read that article, it’s definitely not supporting your argument.
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If you read the article, it wasn’t because of torrents, but sanctions on Russians.
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And you believe it? The app was available for a long time prior to EU DMA
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Did Apple remove Grok? A quick web search suggests they did not…
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How would you use grok to do this? If grok doesn’t start streaming sport events, I don’t think the lawyers are going to care
EDIT: Jesus Christ Lemmy, the corporate lawyers do not care more about moral issues than they care about corporate profit issues. Please, return back to the reality.
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I am referring to the use and marketing of Grok for making nude deepfakes and CSAM.
Further in this thread you claim that people are allegedly detached from reality. The reality of the matter is that Apple’s app store policy is not consistent and there are special rules for certain entities.
Surely CSAM generation and involuntary nude deepfakes are a bigger deal than piracy, I think an average person on the street (in any country, doesn’t have to be the US) would agree with me.
I also don’t see where judges come into play? Has Rave been sued in court?
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I mean… I don’t disagree, but also you can order drugs on black market thru onion browser, weapons, hitmen, etc… Why is this relevant to media sharing which is the thing that gets corporate/lawyer attention?
Grok made it much harder to generate illegal stuff after Apple threatened to remove it from the store, just like Apple threatened Rave, to no avail.

