• nyan@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      42 minutes

      Sure it can (most of the bits, anyway). You can go the opposite way around the world or around the edge of Africa, for instance. Latency will go up, and it’ll add to the congestion of other trunk cables, but rerouting is certainly possible for any location where the cables in the strait aren’t your only route out. The real damage will be to the middle-eastern countries served directly by these cables, and it may be a bit of a headache for people who maintain Internet infrastructure.

      Although Iran might cut the cables regardless, since one of the countries they appear to serve is Iran itself. Easiest way to control the news is to limit the flow of information across the border.

  • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@feddit.ukEnglish
    6 hours

    Quagmire. We had it good, Trump fucked us, and now if we back down and let Iran get their way, they’ll be vastly more powerful and more evil than ever.

    • s1ndr0m3@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 hours

      I agree with your statement, except for the evil part. They will definitely continue to ba an adversary. But the US and UK have been messing around in this region for over 100 years. Who knows what kind of government the Persians would have if it hadn’t been for western backed coups.

      • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@feddit.ukEnglish
        2 hours

        You’re talking about counterfactuals and hypotheticals. I am not. The evils of the past cannot excuse the continuation of evils into the future in my view. Just because we know where an evil came from does not make it not evil. Iran is run by evil men. They stand in opposition to countries run by evil men also, your point there is well taken. The Persians I’ve listened to who do geopolitical commentary seem to agree that Iran is run by evil men, even moreso after Trump’s war. They wish for a more equatable society, but once you’re part of a diaspora it’s hard to imagine a path to get there, seems like. The ones who know their history don’t want a return of monarchy either. It’s an extremely difficult situation made far more difficult by the US and UK historical context. But let’s at least call a spade a spade, slaying thousands of protestors is evil.

    • EvergreenGuru@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6 hours

      Iran is the lesser evil in this war. They’re a democratic society that refuses to engage in genocide. By comparison the US is a democracy currently aiding Israel in genocide.

      • Rekall Incorporated@piefed.socialEnglish
        2 hours

        A democratic society? Since when does a democratic society have a leader for life and organises mass killings and torture of citizens?

        Iran is aiding russia in its genocidal imperialist invasion of Ukraine, or does that not count?

        Is this a satirical comedy account? A parody of “Lemmy leftists”?

        • EvergreenGuru@lemmy.worldEnglish
          13 minutes

          The Ayatollah was Iran’s Chief Islamic Judge. The US also gives judges at the highest levels lifetime appointments. This is basic stuff . How ignorant are you to not know any of this?

          Plus I noticed you completely sidestepped the issue of Israel’s genocide, even though they’re the country that pulled us into this mess of a war.

        • DamnianWayne@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5 hours

          I mean your lamenting the loss of your evil empire benefits. Sounds like you already took a lifelong side in this.

          • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@feddit.ukEnglish
            5 hours

            The collective “we” had it good. As in, the world generally including you unless you’re posting from inside Iran. The strait is rightfully international waters and have been for ages. Anything less is a return to mercantilism.

            How crazy do you have to be to look at the vicious crackdown last year and call Iran democratic? Just because I hate America doesn’t mean I’m on the side of a bloody-handed authoritarian theocratic state. What is with you?

            • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              3 hours

              There are a lot of those types here, frustratingly. It’s doubly amusing and wild when you come across the ones who are really down bad for North Korea.

              • alakey@piefed.socialEnglish
                2 hours

                I wish there was a program where we could fully sponsor their resettlement to nk/iran/whatever is their favourite flavour of authoritarianism.

                • Rekall Incorporated@piefed.socialEnglish
                  1 hour

                  Should a program like that be initiated, they will admit that they are edgelords / demagogues and they don’t actually believe in any of this (the NK stuff in particular is strong evidence that this is all online roleplay).

              • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@feddit.ukEnglish
                3 hours

                Apparently. I would hope at least they’re getting paid to talk that shit, but I’m not even seeing that level of cunning on display.