• Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    2 hours

    It’s called “parenting.” Yes, it’s harder these days with the internet and literally everything “right there.” But it’s still your job as a parent.

    ANYTIME ANYONE imposes restrictions “for the children” - there’s something nefarious going on. If it’s a politician-they are looking to build a database for $. If it’s your priest-he’s banging the alter boy after ccd, or hates himself so much for being gay he’s lashing out at the lgbtq community. If it’s a company-they’ve either been threatened into doing it or more likely are on the take with a fat payday. If it’s a developer adding it into Linux, they should expect fierce skepticism and backlash from the community.

    It’s NEVER about the children. It’s always an alternative motive. If they actually cared about kids, they’d make sure they were fed at school, they’d invest in their education, or they’d invest into social programs to help out those less fortunate.

    • Zanz@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1 hour

      The california law isn’t actually age verification. It is unchecked age assertion at the operating system level. He is also there specifically for the parents to fill out.When a new device is purchased. I have no doubts.It will be misused and lead to age verification in the OS with a third party verifying the age, but that isnt want the bill is now

  • squaresinger@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2 hours

    Tbh, this is just a massive stack of misguidedness.

    First, look at what the original law does:

    • OS needs to know the age.
    • OS itself doesn’t do anything with the age
    • OS needs to provide the age to apps and services asking for it
    • Apps and services need to block content based on the age provided with the OS
    • If the OS doesn’t provide an age, apps and services have to block as if the user was a toddler

    Removing the requirement for the OS to provide an age doesn’t change anything at all, because someone running an OS that doesn’t provide an age will just be blocked everywhere. That’s not a solution, that’s a joke to appease idiots who don’t know what the law does.

    This is just as misguided as the backlash against systemd who added an age field to the user account to allow people to be still able to access age-restricted content.

    The actually relevant part that people should be combatting is the requirement for apps and services to do age verification using the OS-provided age. The OS age field doesn’t matter.

  • alakey@piefed.socialEnglish
    3 hours

    See you in a year or 2.

    Play as old as times:

    1. Company announces garbage change
    2. People freak out
    3. Company says ok we will only do half of the garbage
    4. People calm down and forget
    5. Company later does the rest of the garbage
    6. Nobody cares because half of it is already there
    • tempest@lemmy.caEnglish
      6 minutes

      I mean it makes total sense the minute you think about it at all.

      • some middle managers year end goals include this unpalatable feature
      • they release it
      • public freaks out
      • pr walks it back a bit
      • that managers back at work the week after trying to get that feature in because they need to justify the work they just did on it for better compensation

      It’s the same with laws.

      It’s very hard to get the electorate united to oppose something but if they manage to unite and oppose a bill the lobbyists are back at work on Monday pushing it by a different name.

    • Tim_Bisley@piefed.socialEnglish
      3 hours

      Foot in the door technique is a timeless way to get what you want. People seem oblivious to it.

    • tidderuuf@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1 hour

      Are you implying that CA regulators do exactly what disgusting corporations do?!? I am shocked sir!

  • ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.comEnglish
    2 hours

    The most pedophilic government in history desperately needs to know if your children are on the computer

    … For reasons

  • brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    3 hours

    Install a router/device based content filter if you need to block children from accessing porn.

    • CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      1 hour

      Considering things that are, or could be considered as, porn are everywhere from Reddit to Wikipedia, that doesn’t fix the issue. But I agree, this is something for parents to deal with, not legislation.

  • teft@piefed.socialEnglish
    2 hours

    So they’re basically admitting that they don’t need this for any computer since if you don’t need it for open source why would you need it for closed source? You think kids don’t know how to download and install linux? If I could do it with floppies and a book in the 90s then kids today can do it with a USB image and LLM assistance.

    But in reality they’ll probably just wait for a few years and try and push it through again like how they do with most shitty legislation.

  • [object Object]@lemmy.caEnglish
    2 hours

    This is like winning a small fight and continuing to march on to Moscow on the winter.

    They’ll keep whittling rights down until everything you do is logged with your ID and is whitelisted for your consumption (and I mean whitelisted by rich white list of folks who have the power).

    Anything LGBTQ will be blocked as controversial. And teaching they don’t like will be hidden. Was slavery bad? “Well, that’s controversial. The Europeans did nothing but civilize those savages don’t you know! And our wealth justifies the whole thing!”