- 5 hours
Same thing that happens to every elite caught doing unspeakable crimes, nothing.
5 hoursThe fact that U.S. authorities are actively covering up the crimes of what appear to be numerous and influential co-conspirators—by unlawfully redacting documents and withholding material they are required to release—is likely a factor. The fact that U.S. law enforcement agencies refuse to investigate this case for the same reason is another factor.
Consequently, there have been no new developments, since it is clear that the investigation has effectively been suspended, even though the case is obviously far from closed.
This in itself is, of course, a scandal that in any reasonably functioning country would inevitably lead to the government’s downfall.
But as many have already said, the media isn’t reporting on this because there is essentially no free press left in the U.S.
However, I simply cannot comprehend the fact that U.S. citizens have apparently resigned themselves to the fact that their system is so obviously corrupt that it not only fails to prevent the most serious crimes but actually enables them in the first place. To me, it is absolutely inexplicable that the current regime remains in office despite its obvious criminality and is not forced to resign through mass civil disobedience.
This regime and its network of oligarchs behind it are the reason why the most serious crimes, including those committed by Epstein’s accomplices, go unpunished.
In short: There is no longer any reporting on Epstein and his network because high-ranking members of the U.S. government are quite obviously involved themselves and are therefore doing everything in their power to suppress coverage. This, however, is only possible because U.S. citizens are not holding them accountable.
That’s frightening, but unfortunately it’s the reality.
- 3 hours
It’s not just the US though. None of these people have been punished in any western country, none of them are in jail. The whole Epstein fiasco proves beyond all doubt that Marxists were right all along. We live in a class society, and the laws of this society are created by the ruling capitalist class which subjugates and exploits the working majority. Any democracy that exists is reserved for the ruling elites.
- WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish5 hours
This in itself is, of course, a scandal that in any reasonably functioning country would inevitably lead to the government’s downfall.
so, none, in the age of algorithm driven nonstop brain massage
You’re right, of course, that the billionaires’ all-encompassing power—especially through digital media—makes public resistance very difficult, but I don’t think that such blatant corruption, as the U.S. regime practices it so shamelessly and, above all, so openly, would be tolerated in my home country (Germany). I mean, this is literally organized crime on a scale that’s almost beyond belief.
Corruption exists everywhere, but such blatant criminality in public office seems to me possible on this absurd scale only in the land of superlatives.
I can’t understand how this can be tolerated, especially since it has such negative consequences for the population.
- WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 hours
Corruption exists everywhere, but such blatant criminality in public office seems to me possible on this absurd scale only in the land of superlatives.
Hungary. 16 years. It did end, but I still don’t understand how did it end. and there were no riots, just an election.
I can’t understand how this can be tolerated
that’s what you do when (you feel) you can’t organize.
but to be fair there are other things I can’t understand how can it be tolerated, yet people are cheering for it, as if they are tired to bear their agency and consequences.
- 5 hours
Oh boy, if only we weren’t distracted, we would have jailed all of them by now
- 6 hours
The war helped as a distraction but the primary reason is the media being owned by the Epstein Oligarchy.
State media now runs the news cycles.
- 9 hours
Not to mention that the republifucks bought out control of all the major news networks so they could turn them into propaganda machines!
- 8 hours
Don’t forget about primary-ing the biggest Republican proponent of releasing the Epstein files out of office (Thomas Massie).
- 8 hours
The only good thing about that is he’s still there to do a lot of damage in his last days!
- 4 hours
Nothing wrong have happened even if the war in Iran hadn’t started. It’s not like simply paying attention to things in the news makes anything happen.
It’s also insulting to dead Iranian children to say this is simply a distraction. No, this is the mechanisms of American empire operating how it always has. This isn’t some particular case or bad actors, a war with Iran has been cooking since 1979, and the exact preconditions for this war were in fact established by Joe Biden and his refusal to cease weapon shipments to the Zionist Entity. Every single president since Carter has taken an entirely hostile attitude towards Iran and a far more forgiving attitude towards Israel with the intention of engineering these exact circumstances.
This is the machinery and it’s how it works.
- 4 hours
it’s a distraction from ICE, and the ICE surge was the distraction from the files.
much like democrats would have attacked iran but not in the specific stupid way that trump has, i think it’s reasonable to conjecture that trump has been partly motivated by the news cycle and would have done different specifics if he wasn’t constantly eating shit in other domains.
- 4 hours
Thank you for correcting them. This is a Christian Web Blog Site.
- 4 hours
You mean you sonsabitches have taken over this site too! Cheesus Christ on a cracker!
- 6 hours
What more is there to cover? We’ve known most of the names involved for years already and very little has come of it.
- 4 hours
I’d say all of this has been know since Epstein’s first arrest in 2006. If anything was going to happen it would have happened then.
And yet everything simply kept going. The public release of the files have been interesting, namely things like Chomsky’s involvement and how Elon Musk begged to go to the island. But otherwise it’s been known for decades that Epstein was part of a billionaire human trafficking thing that also might have been Israeli intelligence.
- 4 hours
I mean what more is there to say? The files conclusively show that a ton of figures in academia, finance, politics, etc are beholden to an evil practice of billionaire child trafficking. It’s out there in the open and everyone knows it already.
What could more coverage do at this point? The bourgeois pedophiles are still in power. There aren’t any mechanisms for accountability for these people. Not to be too cynical or anything, but no amount of simple exposure was ever going to collapse the system. There also needs to be a structured, organized resistance or else the Epstein class will simply go on with business as usual.
- 4 hours
you’d think a state AG would have some loftier aspirations and go after somebody, or one of the qanon weirdos would kirk one.
i guess some of the attempts on tump are that, but there ought to be a wider campaign
- 9 hours
Everyone in power decided it was easier to genocide an entire race live in front of everyone (with the full support of the media and every weapons company on the planet) or by crashing the petrodollar by closing off a fifth of the world’s supply to distract from the fact that every single person on the planet has been manipulated by a cabal of satanistic pedo billionaires.
And it worked. Everyone got distracted and it was left to a few vocal people to keep saying ‘where is the other 5 terabytes of files?’
- 9 hours
Until the vast majority go out and become their own personal Luigi Mangione, nothing will get done.
The corruption isn’t just systemic, it’s integral.
You want to end corruption? Then you must end the whole nation.
- 9 hours
Until the vast majority go out and become their own personal Luigi Mangione, nothing will get done.
I love the fire, and there’s definitely gonna be a need for some more Luigi’s to carry out those exceptional tasks that don’t benefit from “too many cooks”, but IMO we need the proletarian majority to organize and collaborate to overthrow the system. So we don’t necessarily need a majority of people to actually go out and fight (but we do definitely need some!); we need a majority to collaborate with a sufficient number of people who do carry out violent actions for proletarian emancipation.
- 6 hours
In my country, your comment would be illegal. As in against the law for encouraging violence.
I dont care what your ideology is. I do see your wish for violence and extra-judicial killings and it disgusts me.
So many criminals against humanity thought they were doing their massacres for a good fight, that it was necessary. You are just the same.
I wish you could express your ideas without the need to encourage violence. I find even more pathetic that you encourage others to do the violence for you.
PS : you can be a revolutionary without being violent.
- 6 hours
I wish you would be fucking useful and cut out the liberal hand wringing bootlicking bullshit. you sound like a CNN news pundit. you probably had a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk, didn’t you, you limp noodle centrist.
- 5 hours
Your accusations are empty.
Charlie kirk was a hateful person, and so is the commenter I’m replying to.
- 2 hours
How is this related to this conversation exactly ?
So because I dont condone killing random people I dont like or agree with, then I let the Holocaust happen ?
Are you sure you understand what my criticism of violence is ?
- 5 hours
: “I literally cannot tell the difference between PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S and Charlie Kirk.”- 5 hours
typical liberal “both sides are equally bad” when talking about leftists and child molesting Nazis.
- 6 hours
In my country, your comment would be illegal.
Which as an anarchist means I’m doing something right
Edit: wait a minute, your instance is a .lu, i.e. Luxembourg?!? Like your government is simultaneously a monarchy and a tax haven. Of course my ideas are fucking illegal there! It’s everything I fucking despise! I shit on your government and all their laws, and I take their condemnation as the utmost praise. 💩💩💩💩
I dont care what your ideology is. I do see your wish for violence and extra-judicial killings and it disgusts me.
Counterpoint: judicial killings are just extra-judicial killings with extra steps.
I wish for the minimum possible amount of violence in the transition to anarchy. It’s not my goddamn fault that the capitalists are so fucking vile that they won’t let us do this without violence.
So many criminals against humanity thought they were doing their massacres for a good fight, that it was necessary. You are just the same.
: “I want to destroy everyone and everything that isn’t profitable.”
: “I’m willing to use violence to stop them.”: “I literally cannot tell the difference.”I wish you could express your ideas without the need to encourage violence.
Yeah and I wish the capitalists didn’t constantly deploy the fucking militaries and police of the world to constantly destroy people and subjugate the masses, and people in Hell want ice water. We’re gonna have to fight these fuckers. Tough shit.
I find even more pathetic that you encourage others to do the violence for you.
Because we can’t do this shit alone.
PS : you can be a revolutionary without being violent.
Yes that is exactly my point. You don’t personally have to be violent to contribute to a revolution. You just need to learn to collaborate with the people who are willing to do violence. I support a diversity of tactics…but sometimes, we gotta fight.
- 5 hours
I have nothing to do with Luxembourg.
This is the main french Lemmy instance using a luxembourg domain.
What a weird rant.
Counterpoint: judicial killings are just extra-judicial killings with extra steps.
Who the fuck are you to decide who gets to live or die ?
I dont give a shit if you are anarchist or techno-fascist :
You are a hateful person that is coward enough to ask other people to bloody their hands in extra judicial killings for your cause.
You have no arguments at all against me for rejecting your violence and so you tried your bullshit about Luxembourg which makes you look even weaker.
A judge in France would definitely condemn you for inciting violence and would be right to do so. Freedom of speech is not absolute in France and inciting other citizens to do extra judicial killings is unsurprisingly frowned upon here and therefore illegal. And just because you are an anarchist doest give you some kind of murder pass.
So you can scream and cry or try to find other bullshit lines to attack me personally but I know you know that in siding with violent people you are part of the problem.
- 5 hours
This is the main french Lemmy instance using a luxembourg domain.
Excellent. Unfortunately I don’t have a burning Luxembourg flag on hand, but thankfully I can now respond with a burning flag emoji. So fuck Fr*nce and their settler-colonialist laws too.
💩Who the fuck are you to decide who gets to live or die ?
Why don’t you apply that exact same indignation to the State?
Also I guess killing in self-defense isn’t a thing? Because the capitalists attack us, all of us, the whole goddamn planet, every hour of every day with their destruction.
Also also, the exact point I’m making is that you don’t have to kill people to participate in a revolution.
Everything else
- 5 hours
Salvador Allende tried the peaceful democratic way and all he got was sabotage and a coup that got him killed. Violence isnt an option anyone wants to take or likes, but the only option available.
- 6 hours
Yeah fighting fascism is the same as fascism!
Childish, liberal nonsense
Those on power never have and never will peacefully give up their power.
- 9 hours
They distracted Americans with the Iran war. Note that in other countries, they actually did something, like how Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor. Formerly Prince Andrew; he was stripped of his titles when he was found to be involved. Sure, he wasn’t prosecuted for being a nonce, but the United Kingdom did more for someone accused of less than the Americans did with Trump, who was notably accused of far more.
What the Americans did do was punish more working-class paedophiles. Sure, they all deserve to be rounded up and jailed indefinitely if they’ve harmed a child, but the American response to people in power hurting actual children was to step up enforcement of people who merely looked at pictures or watched videos of them, and others like them, doing it. I’m glad those people are being rounded up, but if you’re gonna ignore the ones actually doing it in those pictures and videos, what’s the bloody point? It would seem that the point is, the crime is not being a nonce, it’s being a nonce who isn’t rich.
- 7 hours
The Orange Cheeto started a war to allow news to shift away from the PDF files. There is still coverage but it’s just not being done by the companies that are owned by billionaires who have been bribing the Cheeto
