- ravelin@slrpnk.netEnglish16 minutes
Could you imagine if a rogue actor got into the system-level of your iPhone, disguised as an AI assistant? That would be a huge headache and nightmare.
What is AI if not a rogue actor? Seems to me like Europe not getting Siri AI is Apple threatening them with a good time.
- Elvith Ma'for@feddit.orgEnglish5 hours
Never mind the privacy implications. Could you imagine if a
rogue actorUS tech giant like Apple or Google got into the system-level of your phone,disguised as an AI assistant? That would be a huge headache and nightmare.Wait…
9 hoursThe last paragraph feel more like the authors opinion, which is a bit weird on an Android website.
I agree with the EU on this one though, I hate walled gardens and the EU is doing good work.
- 9 hours
https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/09/eu-says-decision-not-to-launch-siri-ai-in-europe-is-apples/
There you go. I saw it on MacRumors yesterday. It’s weird to see Apple stuff on an Android site, but Android Police used to review iPhones when they came out. They’d give them an honest try. Reviews even varied from “decent phone but I loved going back to Android” to “I could use this and be happy but I still prefer Android.” I think they gave them a fair shake.
- 9 hours
The comments on that post are crazy delusional. How do you end up so far in a corporations pocket?
And they all go quite when Apple politely obliges to whatever China demands from them. That site is the definition of toxic-fanboyism. So many commenters their blindly believe every declaration Apple makes.
- Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish4 hours
There’s one comment in there lamenting the lack of innovation from the EU. You know the continent that contains CERN. Yep ain’t no innovation going on over here, it’s amazing we even got internal plumbing.
But then again Americans aren’t the smartest tools in the shed.
What does China do?
China smartphone companies just install their own ai providers I suspect.Edit. Oh .
Apple unveiled a dramatically improved Siri at WWDC 2026, but quietly confirmed that EU and China users won’t be getting it with iOS 27.
Lmao. Apple Loosers. Fucking incompetent cunts.
- reddig33@lemmy.worldEnglish9 hours
Here is Apple’s statement. They designed an API called “Trusted System Agent “ but the EU rejected it.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-delayed-in-eu-for-ios-27-and-ipados-27/
- ozymandias117@lemmy.worldEnglish8 hours
Well, they at least rejected letting Apple release without “Trusted System Agent” and a pinky promise it would be implemented in a year and a half…
- emmy5482@quokk.auEnglish5 hours
“Designed” but did not implement. Pretty much says everything you’d need to know.
- melsaskca@lemmy.caEnglish8 hours
Apple? The company who fucked with their users/customers phone batteries from afar so they would have to purchase new products? That Apple?
- dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.caEnglish2 hours
That’s not actually what happened. It’s kind of the opposite actually.
- Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish4 hours
I’m constantly being told by Apple fanboys that Apple is the only pro consumer silicon valley company in operation.
- melsaskca@lemmy.caEnglish2 hours
Whether Apple fan boy or a Maga representative, they both have an agenda that is a bit far from the truth.
- General_Effort@lemmy.worldEnglish8 hours
Unclear what Apple could even do here.
The obvious answer would be, let people take the risk if they so chose. But the EU also demands security, so that isn’t much of an option. It makes no sense.
Eh, I do get your logic and it makes some sense but they literally do it already for MacOS. Apps request access to os level controls and you have to go in and say yes this app has access to control my computer.
- Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish4 hours
Oh come on. That’s a pathetic attempt at fanboying.
My God that was an incredibly whiny article I’m upset that I have to read that. Here’s the only bit that actually has any substance to it. Emphasis is mine.
Given the serious risks to users, Apple designed a solution called Trusted System Agent — an intermediary that would allow virtual assistants to safely access the same features and capabilities as Siri AI for devices in the EU. Apple also shared a plan to launch Siri AI in the EU while gradually rolling out this new solution over an 18-month period. The European Commission said no. In fact, the European Commission did not agree to any of Apple’s proposals.
So Apple asked if they could just launch anyway and then maybe possibly introduce compliance in a year and a half. Yeah right of course the EU rejected that.
If Apple needs 18 months to introduce a proposed solution then what they can do is they can release the new Siri in 18 months with the proposed solution implemented. I’m sure if they come to the EU with that that will be accepted, which I’m sure the EU told Apple.
- General_Effort@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
If Apple needs 18 months to introduce a proposed solution then what they can do is they can release the new Siri in 18 months with the proposed solution implemented.
So you’re agreeing with me?
- Squizzy@lemmy.worldEnglish8 hours
What risk? I have an android and can select my agent if I want one.
People need to stop mystifying tech and excusing anti consumer products. What is the risk if I choose a different agent? Do they allow me third party keyboards or sms clients?
- General_Effort@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
What risk?
That this is even a question, shows the problem with leaving it all to users.
We’ll have to wait and see how Google responds to these demands. Android has been traditionally more open, but has recently been closed down more; not least because of EU demands for more security. It will be interesting.
- Grimy@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
Umm, so what. You want restrictions because part of the population is low IQ and tech illiterate? The fuck do I care, buy yourself a flip phone if you can’t deal.
If you are “at risk”, you probably shouldn’t be near a computer or the internet.
- General_Effort@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
Sheesh. I don’t agree with the EU locking down Android. But I don’t see either how it makes sense to punch this huge security hole into Apple’s Walled Garden. Their customers expect, and pay for, a lot of hand-holding.
- Grimy@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
You have to give your ID to watch porn for your security. You can’t install unapproved apps for your security. Using a VPS is illegal for your security. Companies need to keep detailed information on you for your security. Can’t have anything encrypted for your security.
Every shit decision lately has been for our security but mostly just seems to be about killing competition or destroying privacy.
As if they couldn’t just solve it by putting a dev mode, but that would hinder profits which is the real reason for all this. The ones that want apple to hold their hand and lead them around like a child can just not use it.
- Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish4 hours
The EU is the reason that people use browsers other than Chrome, they’ve also the ones that forced Microsoft to allow browsers other than internet explorer in the first place so they’re also the reason Chrome exists. All good things in their time.
There has been no risk from removing walled gardens. If any person is not comfortable for any reason about using any AI other than the included one then they are of course free not to make any changes. This is about choice and ensuring customers have choice. Meanwhile here is Apple acting as if the concept of an API is a revolutionary idea.
- glockenspiel@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
EU demands security theater. They are attempting to force backdoors into all of these APIs and systems (including locally run AI) for the nanny state. Very unfortunate.
- Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish4 hours
You get the EU is not a single unified entity. It’s not a government, they don’t have any reason to want to spy on their citizens because they don’t have citizens because they’re not a government.
- 9 hours
Everyone here sucks, or whatever the term is in the “Am I the asshole?” threads when everyone is in the wrong.
Apple knows what the EU regulations are and as a company that wants to do business in the bloc, they have to abide by their rules. Also, China and the Middle East are stricter and Apple happily kowtows to them. And of course Apple bends over for the US regime as well. So what’s different about doing it for the EU?
On the other hand, there’s a reason there are no major companies operating out of the EU. The EU is where innovation goes to die. Like the US, it’s tech rules made by people who neither understand nor love tech. EU does fight for their citizens, but the fact remains that the EU is also hurting its citizens here. Apple doesn’t have to play ball, they can take their ball and go home, and still sell a lesser product to the EU for the same money. Apple is not going to take a loss here. Only people losing will be those living in the EU.
Apple says the EU wanted too much of your personal data. The EU didn’t respond to that. All they really said was “Apple wanted a blanket exception and that is not an option.” Apple still gets to wear its privacy hat, and the EU look like arseholes.
Also, I didn’t read Apple’s message as “blaming the EU.” It was more that they just said due to the way things are over there, Siri AI will not be available there. Sure, they chose their words carefully, but my read on it was “it is what it is,” not “it’s all their fault.” More of an “agree to disagree” kind of thing. Like “they want X, we want Z, we tried Y for a while but they won’t budge and honestly we don’t want to either, so this is what happens next.” Now the citizens of the EU can just roll over and take it, or they can contact the EU leadership and whatnot and tell them they want less regulation. Who knows.
- Pringles@sopuli.xyzEnglish4 hours
The EU is where innovation goes to die.
This is such bullshit. There are three principle reasons why the EU does not grow as many tech giants: 1. Venture capital is hard to cone by in the EU, 2. The language barriers and 3. The not-quite-finished-single market, with many countries not aligning their laws to the EU framework. 1 and 3 are actively being addressed and 2 is a disappearing issue as the younger generations aee all fluent in English.
To your point however, innovation has always been one of the strong suits of the European continent, much more so than monetization which is not a synonym.
- Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish4 hours
On the other hand, there’s a reason there are no major companies operating out of the EU.
Yeah who’s ever heard of Audi, niche car company that they are.
There’s also that big particle accelerator who do you think paid for that? Private equity?
Like the US, it’s tech rules made by people who neither understand nor love tech.
So if this were true the US would also be the land where innovation goes to die. Which actually on that point there are plenty of scientists that are leaving the United States because of its almost fearful attitude to intelligence.
- Franconian_Nomad@feddit.orgEnglish9 hours
I think there are major companies operating out of the EU. Airbus for example. And I’m sure there are more….
