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33 secondsReminds me of the US trying to prevent the rest of the world getting 128 bit encryption back in the 90s.
- ComradePenguin@lemmy.mlEnglish2 hours
Isn’t this good for Anthropics IPO? I’d rather invest in a company that has a model so insanely good it has to be restricted from the public by the government, than pretty much every other AI company.
- underthunder@thelemmy.clubEnglish5 hours
I’ve been reading some responses to this situation and it seems everyone is attempting to explain this as though there is some type of rational decision making that went into it. I’m going with the idea that the only reason this occurred is because Trump got mad. That’s it.
nice IPO you have there.
it’d be a real shame if something were to happen to it.
- MagicShel@lemmy.zipEnglish6 hours
I used fable once to find discrepancies in all the documentation for a project. Cost me $10 and took about ten minutes. It caught 31 more issues after I fixed the 17 opus found. Still I can’t say how long that would’ve taken by hand.
Now I have a long weekend of fixing project docs before Monday.
I cringed when my coworker told me he’d been using it all day. 80% of what we use AI for can be done by Sonnet. He probably spent a couple hundred bucks or more. No idea what leadership is going to make of that decision. They have so far trusted us to be budget conscious, but that’ll definitely change if we have people spending $1k/week.
That being said, my dev teams are all offshore. Not that I expect them to use fable much, but it sucks if it’s not even going to be an option. I don’t know how or if we’re going to provide api keys to our teams if the company can’t just make more keys from the account.
- vrek@programming.devEnglish4 hours
I’m betting someone prompted chatgpt “should we order anthroptic to disable their models?”
- LedgeDrop@lemmy.zipEnglish11 hours
Dean Ball, a former White House official who contributed to the AI Action Plan the administration issued in the summer of 2025, said in a post on X that the order suggests all “non-Americans” would be restricted from using Anthropic’s latest models, including those based in the U.S.
“This means you should expect to have to prove your citizenship to use Anthropic models,” Ball said.
There is the real reason, folks.
Yet another effort to force mandatory ID checking to access a website.
- Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish42 minutes
This means you should expect to have to prove your citizenship to use Anthropic models
I doubt this will continue, more then half of the silicon valley workforce are immigrants or foreign born, and most of them have become dependent on AI. Just like the h1b issue trumps going to have to roll this back once thiel and the rest of the silicon valley billionaires tell him to.
- givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
I’d say it gonna be worse if there’s a plan.
Browsers and backbone website all just installed AI without asking, you need to be signed in to opt out.
So if not signed in, even if you don’t like the AI…
This is an avenue for them to say they need an ID for just a browser.
Like, what they say they’re gonna do is bad. But it’s always worse than they say.
They drip shit like this, to stop everyone from getting pissed at once.
- LedgeDrop@lemmy.zipEnglish3 hours
They drip shit like this, to stop everyone from getting pissed at once.
Big Tech has always been pushing the Boiling Frog Syndrome. …and, unfortunately, governments are using this as their playbook too.
- lepinkainen@lemmy.worldEnglish10 hours
Not just a website, how can a company prove that a “non-American” isn’t using an API?
- 10 hours
They can’t and Anthropic have disabled it for US users too.
Though that’s perhaps, in part, to get the govt to change its mind.
- tias@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish10 hours
But also even if they can, they can’t implement it in 5 seconds or even a week, but the order takes effect immediately. So there’s absolutely no other choice in the short term.
- 13igTyme@piefed.socialEnglish10 hours
Shove AI into everything and make everything require constant validation. I’m sure someone will also sell the solution to this constant validation.
I have a feeling I’ll be completely done with the Internet in 5 years.
- LedgeDrop@lemmy.zipEnglish10 hours
Oh, it’s simple (but a total invasion of privacy): they use the same Age Check validation needed by Sony/PlayStation/whatever, but now you need to upload your passport or birth certificate, and take a picture of yourself. The API access token will be created under the name of that account owner.
…and don’t think for a moment that even if you are “eligible” to use this, Anthropic won’t be building a profile on you based on whatever sensitive information you provide (ya, know - to make a better UX. Trust me, bro /s).
- themurphy@lemmy.mlEnglish10 hours
That’s the thing isnt it. It’s forcing AI companies to shut them down and only provide them to people the US government has a deal with, themselves and the elites.
We cant have power to the people.
- 9point6@lemmy.worldEnglish10 hours
Seems like a good policy to give non US AI companies a boost whilst also causing a US recession, given a large chunk of the US economy is currently being propped up by the AI bubble.
Wasn’t one of the results of the failed 90s encryption export controls, that as a result, other strong encryption schemes were created elsewhere and kneecapped the advantage that the US previously held in that area
- madcaesar@lemmy.worldEnglish9 hours
Trump admin is masterful at own goals. They are the Wayne Gretzky of own goals.
- Zetta@mander.xyzEnglish7 hours
Yea I hope this spurs more investment into Chinese llm labs, or really any country doing open models (pretty much only china). The united states like normal cannot be a trusted and reliable partner. I’m also against lobotomizing llms in general In the name of “safety”.
- jaybone@lemmy.zipEnglish6 hours
The US has already handed china the EV market. May as well give them AI too.
- General_Effort@lemmy.worldEnglish8 hours
Anthropic’s statement: https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access
I hope they cut off all access to US-AI to foreign countries, because that would mean, I don’t have to fucking deal with it anymore.
Oh no. That will hurt Anthropic’s projected revenue. Won’t someone please think of the shareholders?
- [object Object]@lemmy.caEnglish6 hours
This is the US government hobbling Anthropic after they didn’t let the pentagon use it for building a domestic surveillance and autonomous weapons systems.
But I don’t doubt the US will continue trying to block AI exports.
- givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
It’s not that people don’t want to use, they can’t!
It’s exclusive, and that works on idiots
- LedgeDrop@lemmy.zipEnglish10 hours
Sadly, I doubt it would have any meaningful impact.
Instead, it’ll be marketed as "Fable 5: it’s so good, the U.S. government won’t share it (…but yours now, for the low monthly payment of 20 dollars + plus your ID and your families)
They weren’t going to let people have it that cheap for very long. The plan was to offer it on subscription plans for a couple weeks, then move to usage-based billing, which is much more expensive for a usage pattern that comes anywhere near the subscription limits.
Keeping a single instance of Fable busy for a full day would probably cost a thousand dollars at standard API rates, and some agentic coding workflows run many agents in parallel. Companies have just recently started to figure out that rewarding employees for how many tokens they use may be a waste of money, but Anthropic is hoping to cash in before they all do.
- ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.mlEnglish8 hours
Any company that only recently figured this out deserves to go bankrupt.
It’s like giving people company cars and rewarding them for using the most gas. Only that driving somewhere is at least sometimes required.
You’re absolutely right!
Sorry, couldn’t help myself. Good metrics are hard, but token leaderboards are obviously terrible metrics that will lead to bad business outcomes unless propped up by investor hype. Of course investor hype is a real factor, and it’s often driven by guesses about what other investors will do rather than real business outcomes.
