Who cares what the militantly pro-AI troll instance does?

Anyone that would care about either instance for that matter would see it from somewhere on one of those instances.

If the rain keeps up, it’ll keep coming down

Partly that, partly that even if they tried to prevent it from killing humans (if able) it would just do it.

Like if AI had a button that said “kill 20 random people” it wouldn’t have any reason to not press the button. It doesn’t give a fuck about human life, because it can’t really give a fuck about anything.

It’ll kill every human just as easily as it I’ll delete an entire codebase.

It’s not “evil” it’s the lack of anything resembling ethics, including respect for human life. There’s technically a difference. But that’s a fundamental misunderstanding of human psychology

Penrose published a book on it in 1989.

For literal decades the only thing that ruled it out was the ability for quantum entanglement in the brain. Less than 2 years ago we proved not only was that possible, but quantum super position could be sustained for as long as we’re awake.

It’s a pretty safe time to be confident, even without accounting for Penrose being the literal smartest person on the planet.

Like, I’m not big on “appeals to authority” but if Sir Roger Penrose spends 37 years saying something is true, and just continually gets proven more right over the decades…

It’s not as far reaching as you seem to believe.

Like, gravity is just a theory too, shit is harder than people realize it is to prove.

Generational Cohort Analysis has its purposes

It was valuable when generations were defined around cultural or technological change.

What fucked it up was boomers deciding they needed to simplify it to every 15 years no matter what because that made marketing easier.

Now it’s practically worthless and people have to invent “new” generations like Oregon Trail generation or TikTok generation. And if you want to do actual research you need to waste time explaining why you’re disregarding the established but useless standards.

It’s like RFK jrs upside down food pyramid, it doesn’t mean nutritional science is worthless, it just means the official guidelines are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reduction

Waaaaay to many people think shit is brand new because they still won’t admit they spent decades with their heads in the sand.

At least they finally realized it was a problem, just depressing to see them imitate trump by acting like no one knew what they just learned.

No. I’ve no idea what could have possibly brought you to that conclusion

Luckily it’s easy to find research from that period:

This model requires that the tubulin is able to switch between alternative conformational states in a coherent manner, and that this process be rapid on the physiological time scale. Here, the biological feasibility of the Orch OR proposal is examined in light of recent experimental studies on microtubule assembly and dynamics. It is shown that the tubulins do not possess essential properties required for the Orch OR proposal, as originally proposed, to hold. Further, we consider also recent progress in the understanding of the long-lived coherent motions in biological systems, a feature critical to Orch OR, and show that no reformation of the proposal based on known physical paradigms could lead to quantum computing within microtubules. Hence, the Orch OR model is not a feasible explanation of the origin of consciousness.

https://journals.aps.org/pre/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevE.80.021912

I rember that time as well, although it seems my memory is better than yours, despite you being waaaaaaay more confident.

If you have further questions tho, ask someone else. Good luck finding someone better equiped to talk about this stuff tho. Every days another burnt bridge, right?

I think you may have misused the word “hypothetically” then

I 100% did

I was taught Orch OR theory at university about 17 years ago

Then you were also taught that there was no way the brain could maintain sustained quantum entanglement at the same time.

It’s a new theory

I mean, frame of reference…

You said you learned it 17 years ago, that’s not very “new”.

But compared to any other science, all of psychology is incredibly “new”.

I’m multitasking bro, this ain’t that deep

This is only a proposed theory, it’s very far from accepted fact.

Which is why I said hypothetically…

Although up until a year ago the very idea that quantum entanglement could happen in the brain was treated as a joke for like 30 years and that’s why the larger theory was instantly dismissed…

Which is why I added the “technically” as well.

If we’re being technical even gravity is just a theory. But it’s not like being deny the existence of gravity…

Yep

The thing is if it’s entangled, why is there a fiber cable?

If it’s teleportation, why is there a cable?

However what actually makes consciousness in a brain is (hypothetically, technically) microtubules forming a very tiny cable inside of which quantum superposition is able to be maintained while we are conscious. When even brief quantum entanglement used to be insanely hard anywhere and an environment like the brain considered impossible.

Like, it’s hard to tell what really happened from OPs article. But there should be much better articles explaining it, and this could actually end up being crazy important. Like, 20-30 years from now this might be how we finally get a real AI.

Quick edit:

Like, rather than one straight line to send data, if this can maintain even just entanglement in a simple fiber optic cable…

Then that’s huge.

If they just stretched a string between two containment chambers that each have an entangled particle, then what purpose is the string even serving?

The firm’s T‑Labs used commercially available Qunnect hardware to demo quantum teleportation over 30km of live

Bit disingenuous to talk about teleporting things along a fiber line…

Also shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how quantum entanglement works…

But it’s actually pretty huge that they’re able to do this.

That makes sense at least, they have a huge financial interest in grifting idiots

What doesn’t make sense is the real life humans who not only sink their own free time and money into training it, but insist on attempting to convince people it’s great with their free time after their chatbot credits run out.

Buddy…

Ask anyone that used to be a child if their parents knew about all the shit they got up to.

You think you know everything and are on top of, but so do every parent.

Hopefully your kid knows how to take care of himself.

No one else is going to apparently

This is actually smart thinking…

The cyber trucks they produce today, will sit on the lot for years before demand catches up thru backlog. Since all they’re going to do for 3-5 years is sit in a parking lot, they don’t need fancy luxuries like steering wheels or door handles.

Bro there’s people who play Skyrim for 100hrs never leaving the first village or picking up a weapon.

There might not be a game tailored to what you want, but I’m sure a game exists where you can do what you want to, especially if on PC and with mods.

Like, you can just play a super market simulator, and instead of caring about score do what you get enjoyment from.

You don’t understand, he said not to go anywhere with anyone… Unless they’re nice

/s

Why would you let him interact with randoms?

Like. “Trolls” are the least of your worries here.

Most likely the fae were Homo floresiensis or a similarly sized cousin who had emerged from Africa before us and had a head start.

There’s story that fit the fae almost all over the planet: small, connected to nature, intelligent but incomprehensible, speaks in tongues at times, enforces “totally random” rules very strictly, even as far as making weirdly specific “laws” that could result in marriage and potential offspring that shares traits of both parents…

The few places they arent evil or treated like a Boogeyman, is the ones were similar people were slaves or “helpers”. But in all stories they were capable, self sufficient, and human like. They just weren’t tall and looked “off”.

But in all cases, eventually with the spread of humans they were pushed out, retreating away from humans.

It’s way more logical than the only thing remembered about AI has nothing related to AI by any logical stretch of the imagination

Well, Lemmy isn’t big enough for that…

What we do have unfortunately is more than a few people who spin up 5-10 accounts and when they get offended they can easily flip thru them on an app and manipulate votes.

It’s very obvious, but it seems like admins have given up trying to stop it. If they ban the accounts the person just makes 5-10 new ones again.

So I just block them when I notice now. But even that’s still better than corpo bots that are actually organized and spreading a message, here its almost always just well intentioned idiots.